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ecmn | brad c - 9/11/2025 22:35
You clearly know nothing about this stuff to say the things you do, which is fine, if you don't deal with it good for you but it's real. There are diseases and illnesses and always will be because that's the real world. You talk about something like you speak from a higher level of understanding but what knowledge have you ever brought to a conversation that brings a solution? I missed that post if it's out there because I only remember all the holier than thou condemnation posts to those that do use it.
Spraying is the solution we have, there is no soil health resolution to this problem. If there is, bottle it and sell it but saying it exists because you 'think' it does doesn't make it so. If the universities had the answer, they'd bottle and sell it too, but wait, there isn't one. So, since the solution today is spraying, we spray and we spray before the disease sets in. And since fungicides don't last for 3 months but the disease sure can, we spray again to keep the protection going. How about building a better fungicide to last 3 months and not 2-3 weeks? Probably some kick butt dollars to be had with that! Again, solution????
When was the last time SR blew up like this? Ever? Sometimes things just come together, for the bad. As far as resistance to SR, not sure but since it comes in from the south and doesn't overwinter here my guess is it'll take a while. In the meantime, i'm spraying to protect bushels and while grumbling about the check(s), I sleep like a baby knowing I did it. I sell bushels to make dollars, it's called farming. Soil health should equal something that relates to my business, more bushels, less costs, something, not a set of new cloths for the emperor.
if building a fungicide that was more systemic was the simple solution. Why hasn't the industry just put it in a bottle and made a pile of money?
people are talking 50 to 100 bushels per acre lost in the current system, I'm asking how can we do better. How do we fix this. What can we change So if a disease like this blows up that if we see very little yield loss and one pass would be very effective.
how does this upset people and how is everybody not asking these questions.
Nice rant but you forgot to tell us how the disease works. How many different trials for things like this have you done? How many farmers from other industries That are successful with managing diseases ,pest and weed issues have you listened to. How many papers have you read about diseases and how they work, How many University people have you reached out to, to have conversations with and ask questions too? Excuse me for being passionate in trying to educate myself and be better.
Show me where I said the disease isn't real. Because I can scroll up in this conversation and see where I acknowledge that we have to spray for this disease.
If me asking questions, quoting University data, learning from other farmers that are doing it, and then my own anecdotal trials makes me holier than thou. That's a you problem.
Your solution is more fungicide and we need to come up with a stronger fungicide. We have over 60 years of History using fungicides. We have not eliminated one disease and now have four more to deal with. Again. Your solution is we need more of the same.
Just like guys use cantans in white mold. Other high value crops are using pathogens to fight pathogens. They're using soil health practices to grow a plant that has a stronger defense system..
You are correct. Rust and these other diseases will never go away. So that leaves us To build a defense. | |
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