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nwfarmer
Posted 8/21/2017 19:05 (#6201659)
Subject: And now Pro Farmer


iowa		First you guys that are long the market bash the USDA and say that everything is untrue about their report. Now, Pro Farmer will find the same results and you guys will say there is a conspiracy. When will the time come that you admit MAYBE they are right and that you should not look out your back door and make decisions?
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jsmo98
Posted 8/21/2017 19:13 (#6201681 - in reply to #6201659)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


moline illinois		Oh we guarantee they will be right. They'll make sure of it.
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tom1491
Posted 8/21/2017 19:23 (#6201701 - in reply to #6201681)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Southwestern Indiana		They put Ohio at 164.5. USDA had them at 171.
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Timmyg
Posted 8/21/2017 19:24 (#6201707 - in reply to #6201701)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


North Of York Nebraska		What did they put South Dakota at?
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tom1491
Posted 8/21/2017 19:25 (#6201711 - in reply to #6201707)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Southwestern Indiana		Haven't released it yet
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Centuryfarm
Posted 8/21/2017 19:27 (#6201719 - in reply to #6201711)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Like I said before most everything is coming in 30 below last year.
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Bengal Stripes
Posted 8/21/2017 19:30 (#6201733 - in reply to #6201719)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer



The Ohio estimate is 16 bpa > last year.
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Palmtopper
Posted 8/21/2017 19:53 (#6201809 - in reply to #6201733)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


SE Iowa		on market rally chip said the tour only stayed in the se... did not go into the dryer areas but admits it would drag down their results.
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Buck S
Posted 8/21/2017 19:34 (#6201745 - in reply to #6201719)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer



McLeod County, MN
Centuryfarm - 8/21/2017 18:27

Like I said before most everything is coming in 30 below last year.



Not everything. Mine is 100 better than last year and 50 better than APH. MN as a whole will be damn close to last years corn number too if you ask me.
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fastdeere
Posted 8/21/2017 19:39 (#6201760 - in reply to #6201745)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Buck S - 8/21/2017 19:34



Not everything. Mine is 100 better than last year and 50 better than APH.



Your done combining already?! You must have planted damn early!
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mindeere
Posted 8/21/2017 21:42 (#6202210 - in reply to #6201760)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


SW Minnesota		Aside from a killing frost, you don't think you can look at your corn today and tell if it's APH or better?
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Honkytonkman
Posted 8/21/2017 19:28 (#6201724 - in reply to #6201711)
Subject: Makes no difference


USDA, PF tour, whatever they say I personally won't believe this is a 170 national yield. If this is printed after harvest by the Feds a lawsuit and audit should happen. JMO flame away don't care!!
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Bengal Stripes
Posted 8/21/2017 19:27 (#6201720 - in reply to #6201701)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer



They missed Ohio 10 bu low last year.
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Tayfarm
Posted 8/21/2017 19:20 (#6201696 - in reply to #6201659)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Good point GrowCorn. I wonder how he will respond to that.
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turdypointbuck
Posted 8/21/2017 19:27 (#6201721 - in reply to #6201659)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer



NW Barton County Missouri		When will they admit they're a bunch of trespassers?
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Illinois Steve
Posted 8/21/2017 19:31 (#6201738 - in reply to #6201721)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


North Central Illinois		Who cares?
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Ben Riensche
Posted 8/21/2017 19:29 (#6201725 - in reply to #6201659)
Subject: You do realize unadjusted tour results are posted every night?


Jesup, IA		You do realize tour results are posted every night? Just raw data, without adjustment. Comparable from year to year?

And that the tour takes the same routes every year, for consistency.

At the end of now Farm Journal tour (and it has actually been the Midwest Crop Tour for many years), Pro Farmer editorial staff makes an estimate (in August) of what the thinks the final crop yield will be. This involves estimating what growing conditions will be for the rest of the season.

Just keep in mind USDA gets to print the right answer.

But you as a farmer can look at the tour data on AgWeb.com every night and make your own comparison of how each day of the tour did vis a vis prior tours. That seems like useful information to me.

You don't have to pay any attention to the Pro Farmer estimate at the end.
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Centuryfarm
Posted 8/21/2017 19:45 (#6201780 - in reply to #6201725)
Subject: RE: You do realize unadjusted tour results are posted every night?


We all know that chip takes has magic pencil into a back room and pencil adjusts it so it's close to usda. I am just looking at the raw data when I say it is 30 below last year. If your in mc cloud county and this year will be 50 to 100 better, you got hailed out and your results don't count. Btw ben your beans look pretty good to me in your photos. I thought your area was bullet proof after your 5 to 8 inch rain in July.

Edited by Centuryfarm 8/21/2017 19:47
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GrainTrader
Posted 8/21/2017 19:35 (#6201748 - in reply to #6201659)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer



20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana		Heard a story from a fella who was with ProFarmer today... from what I heard I lost all respect for the "Bear Tour"
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IN555
Posted 8/21/2017 19:37 (#6201756 - in reply to #6201748)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


NW Indiana		Seriously you aren't going to finish the story?
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Tayfarm
Posted 8/21/2017 19:44 (#6201777 - in reply to #6201756)
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I agree, whats the rest of the story?
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$$$
Posted 8/21/2017 19:40 (#6201763 - in reply to #6201748)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Eastern ND		I thought it was the beer tour.
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Tayfarm
Posted 8/21/2017 19:43 (#6201773 - in reply to #6201748)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


They estimate Ohio at 164.62, USDA is at 171. Last year they estimated Ohio at 148.96 and final yield was 159. Short last year by 10, short this year by 6?? Not too accurate doesn't seem. Whats the point if these numbers are so far off?

Edited by Tayfarm 8/21/2017 19:45
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Jon Gruden
Posted 8/21/2017 20:06 (#6201851 - in reply to #6201659)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Chapel Hill NC		The good ole trespass tour.
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tom1491
Posted 8/21/2017 20:09 (#6201862 - in reply to #6201851)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Southwestern Indiana		SD is estimated at 148.
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ltct04
Posted 8/21/2017 20:30 (#6201926 - in reply to #6201862)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


east central iowa		Where did they come in at for yield estimate in 2010? I think they were almost as far off as usda but maybe I'm wrong.
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nwfarmer
Posted 8/21/2017 20:51 (#6202021 - in reply to #6201926)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


iowa		You guys are trying to compare USDA July report to Pros August report. You will do anything to tear it apart because you have done a poor job of marketing and want the market to go the other way. Sooner or later you will have to admit the yield is better than your backdoor yield.
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IN555
Posted 8/21/2017 21:03 (#6202063 - in reply to #6202021)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


NW Indiana		So what is your yield predictions?
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Tayfarm
Posted 8/21/2017 21:15 (#6202113 - in reply to #6202021)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


nwfarmer - 8/21/2017 19:51

You guys are trying to compare USDA July report to Pros August report. You will do anything to tear it apart because you have done a poor job of marketing and want the market to go the other way. Sooner or later you will have to admit the yield is better than your backdoor yield.



USDA's latest report was in August not July, do some checking before you post.
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Jon Gruden
Posted 8/21/2017 21:15 (#6202114 - in reply to #6202021)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


Chapel Hill NC
nwfarmer - 8/21/2017 20:51

You guys are trying to compare USDA July report to Pros August report. You will do anything to tear it apart because you have done a poor job of marketing and want the market to go the other way. Sooner or later you will have to admit the yield is better than your backdoor yield.


I'm glad you have it all figured out. Sold at the high, yes?
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yankees27
Posted 8/21/2017 21:57 (#6202254 - in reply to #6201926)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


NW Ia
ltct04 - 8/21/2017 20:30

Where did they come in at for yield estimate in 2010? I think they were almost as far off as usda but maybe I'm wrong.


Yes your right they had US at 164.5 right along side usda. Final 153 that year I read an old article from the 2010 tour the other day and chip said there was fantastic corn out there biggest we have ever seen. LOL
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kb12473
Posted 8/21/2017 23:00 (#6202392 - in reply to #6201659)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


talked to someone Friday night that worked with profarmer tour and they said that they looked at satellite imagry and picked where they were going to scout if that isn't influencing the market I don't know what is. Wish I knew where their as--s where going to stop so I knew wether to be long or short on the market. Bet if you watched who was dictating where to stop on the tour and where they placed their money on the markrt short term we could all make money
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SnakeFarm
Posted 8/21/2017 23:57 (#6202448 - in reply to #6202392)
Subject: RE: And now Pro Farmer


kb12473 - 8/22/2017 00:00

talked to someone Friday night that worked with profarmer tour and they said that they looked at satellite imagry and picked where they were going to scout if that isn't influencing the market I don't know what is. Wish I knew where their as--s where going to stop so I knew wether to be long or short on the market. Bet if you watched who was dictating where to stop on the tour and where they placed their money on the markrt short term we could all make money


Sounds like insider trading. Maybe they will be featured on future episode of American Greed. In all seriousness I wonder if this is worth it for Pro Farmer and other sponsors. Seems like they catch more crap every year. Do you think the tour has any real impact on the market?
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