no welfare payments on this farm!!!!!!!! | who cares about the farm program and it doesnt matter what state your in. get a wetland determination and DO NOT go to your nrcs to get it. the epa will have the last say so in your plans, you can talk to the nrcs, and you can talk to the core but when it all comes down to it you bettter kep the epa happy and find the right engineers who know how to do that. |