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zachary193
Posted 1/1/2016 11:49 (#5002659)
Subject: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


What is the best option for controlling volunteer corn in a corn on corn no till situation? I was reading that select max ammonium sulfate and a nonionic surfactant. but is select max just for grass and corn that is up . There is a choice of graxmone and metribuzin. I'm just not wild about graxmone because of the drift and label poison. No other RUPS bother be but that one. Never used it and trying to stay away from it for I have lots of strips and hay in between and just am not wild about it. I mean anything can drift but that will desecrate everything. I'm not sure that select max will work well ? never used it I had some trouble in soybeans and used arrow and it worked well to rid the volunteer corn grass anything like it a lot. Also am new to no till corn on corn so well see how she goes got a good triple stack and a lot of n to blow on her. I'm hopping to match my rotated acers or exceed them. Even when I was tilling I had some issues with volunteer corn.
thanks.
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martin
Posted 1/1/2016 12:04 (#5002711 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


as a rule, you will have less volunteer corn in a no-till situation, compared to a minimum-till situation. Having said that.....

you need to plan ahead - 1st year, use a conventional corn, and then 2nd year, you can use a RR corn or a LL corn.  And that you should give you some flexibility to clean up volunteer corn.

or if you use a RR corn in year 1, then use a LL corn in subsequent year; or vice versa.  Problem is you need to avoid stacked hybrids - hybrids that are both RR and LL.  That narrows your hybrid choices.

Beyond that....... hoe, hoe, hoe.    (ha,ha,ha)

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txfarmboy86
Posted 1/1/2016 12:07 (#5002720 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



Gruver, Texas		I want to hear whats working for this too. Not happy with the options I have tried so far..
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btman
Posted 1/1/2016 12:41 (#5002813 - in reply to #5002720)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


How about a row crop cultivator ? That's what I do
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boog
Posted 1/1/2016 14:02 (#5003025 - in reply to #5002813)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



We like to moleboard plow our COC ground in the fall. Then if we have much volunteer corn in the spring we will run a row crop cultivator if needed. Most times it's not.

Edited by boog 1/1/2016 14:04
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cornerpost
Posted 1/2/2016 08:32 (#5004800 - in reply to #5003025)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


SE MN Still in Pothole Country		X2
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Agphd
Posted 1/1/2016 20:25 (#5004048 - in reply to #5002720)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


Generic select for less than 2.00/acre works 100 percent of the time
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mindeere
Posted 1/2/2016 17:20 (#5005890 - in reply to #5004048)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


SW Minnesota		In a corn on corn situation? I bet it would really work.
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martin
Posted 1/1/2016 20:40 (#5004101 - in reply to #5002720)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


txfarmboy,  are you no-tilling your corn-on-corn, or are you working that ground?

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txfarmboy86
Posted 1/10/2016 17:10 (#5026149 - in reply to #5004101)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



Gruver, Texas		Hey martin im late in replying here i guess but we are striptilling our continuous so far but may switch to notill this year..
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coup
Posted 1/1/2016 12:47 (#5002831 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


USA		Grain dryer is the best solution when it comes to eliminating volunteer corn.
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nhermanson
Posted 1/1/2016 21:40 (#5004253 - in reply to #5002831)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


Central, IA		While I do agree, it has to get in the head to make that effective. Our worst volunteer corn problems were in fields that had down corn the year before.
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Dave Cen.Ia
Posted 1/2/2016 05:48 (#5004558 - in reply to #5004253)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



Nevada, Iowa		Agreed, down corn is the worst enemy in those situations but it still seems to be more manageable than the days before BT for corn borer. Seems like volunteer corn was a much bigger issue in those days.
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Jdel
Posted 1/1/2016 13:01 (#5002877 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


Wheelersburg and Lancaster, Ohio		Do you or a neighbor have cattle. Grazing stalks may help.
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trapperjon
Posted 1/1/2016 13:28 (#5002936 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


east central iowa		get a red combine and the pheasants will starve.
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newholland4life
Posted 1/1/2016 14:14 (#5003058 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



New castle PA		Less tillage the better.
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JimmyP
Posted 1/1/2016 14:43 (#5003119 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


Lancaster, OH		All good posts for you here. No-till is the best first option. Harvest at a bit higher moisture, maybe mid- to low-20's instead of the teens.

Rotate between RR, LL with conventional in the first year. The LL will likely give you less stunting from drift on hay tphan with Glyphosate but your should be able to control drift pretty well with these anyway. They are not like phenoxys or dicamba.
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gbenkfarm
Posted 1/1/2016 14:49 (#5003126 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



SeMN		Does anyone now offer straight Liberty Link corn ? One option would be alternating LL and RR only corn. I'm in a corn bean rotation and use mainly conventional corn so it's not an issue here. If you have insecticide capability, you could alternate conventional and solve half your problem.
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GrainTrader
Posted 1/1/2016 15:23 (#5003196 - in reply to #5003126)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana		Yes. Their are LL only corn options
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zachary193
Posted 1/1/2016 17:57 (#5003562 - in reply to #5003196)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


They don't have strait Liberty products in our area yet. Some soybeans but no corn. I'm just asking about herbicides to start out with I guess if I have to use grad one I could
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gbenkfarm
Posted 1/1/2016 18:15 (#5003611 - in reply to #5003562)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn



SeMN		As far as I know there is no herbicide that can distinguish between volunteer corn and planted corn. Your only options are spraying a burn down of select max or similar grass herbicide prior to planting or roundup after liberty or vice - versa.
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Cadillacfarm
Posted 1/1/2016 18:49 (#5003707 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


North Central Missouri		Notill and a good combine operator.
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Redshale1
Posted 1/1/2016 19:20 (#5003843 - in reply to #5003707)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


Northeastern Pa		Never is as big of a deal as it looks. After hurricane sandy lots of corn was flat. Ears of corn were all over the ground. Ran over once with salford and planted. We had clumps of corn where a whole cob had sprouted. Looks a little messy but I believe there was only a minimal impact on yields.
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Iron Archer
Posted 1/1/2016 19:56 (#5003952 - in reply to #5003843)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


South Eastern VA		Ive had to switch to beans because of stupid hurricanes dropping entire ears on the ground.

Would select or Fusilade sprayed on whole corn cobs kill the kernels and keep them from sprouting?
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FromtheFlats
Posted 1/1/2016 20:03 (#5003965 - in reply to #5003952)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


EC IL		No they don't work that way.
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Agphd
Posted 1/1/2016 20:24 (#5004042 - in reply to #5002659)
Subject: RE: controling volunteer corn continuious corn


You can buy generic select (select max is just select with an adjuvant) for 40.00/gl plus you need to add coc. Very cheap, slow to kill but works well. Gramoxone is hit or miss and more expensive. You have a 30 day plant back for most crops however
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