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badger1
Posted 12/22/2015 18:32 (#4979591)
Subject: Organic corn price?


SE wisconsin		Anyone know what they are paying for organic corn? I got a farm that we were thinking trying it if the price is still reasonable, I know it will be a lot of work but it's worth a try.
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Mw44
Posted 12/22/2015 18:46 (#4979627 - in reply to #4979591)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


NW Ohio		$12 in our area.
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mx210guy
Posted 12/22/2015 18:48 (#4979638 - in reply to #4979591)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Lucan ON		My friend who farms roughly 800 acres organically. For corn usually gets between 1.5-2x the conventional price. Most of his corn goes to New York state to a large organic chicken farm.
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Orfarmer
Posted 12/22/2015 18:52 (#4979647 - in reply to #4979591)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?



Roanoke, IN		This will give you a rough idea.



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trebfms
Posted 12/22/2015 19:10 (#4979685 - in reply to #4979591)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Central Wisconsin

https://www.herbrucks.com/grains-fertilizer

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stricker78
Posted 12/22/2015 20:03 (#4979861 - in reply to #4979685)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Alliance, NE		What kind of yields do organic producers get compared to non organic?
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Blusteryknollfarm
Posted 12/22/2015 20:16 (#4979909 - in reply to #4979861)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


North Central Illinois		I am pretty close to county average. I sure that I am losing some yield potential by planting 2-3 weeks late to avoid GMO pollination issues. Weed control is a challenge, but corn is a lot easier to work with than soybeans. Maximizing profit in the non corn years is the challenge.
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Big Ben
Posted 12/22/2015 22:11 (#4980251 - in reply to #4979861)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
stricker78 - 12/22/2015 18:03

What kind of yields do organic producers get compared to non organic?


70% of what conventional production would likely be.
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clicker
Posted 12/22/2015 21:35 (#4980154 - in reply to #4979685)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Southern IA		do truckers ever accidentally fill the organic loads out of the conventional non-organic bins? Seems like a mistake that would be pretty common, how would the buyer ever know?
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Blusteryknollfarm
Posted 12/22/2015 23:04 (#4980366 - in reply to #4980154)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


North Central Illinois		Every load needs to be identified with a specific lot number that links it back to the field of origin. By the time I look up the lot number, I will see which bin that crop is stored in. Much conventional non-GMO corn still has enough background crossing due to pollen drift to flag a GMO test at a food grade buyer.

As for "accidentally" filling from the wrong bin, this is why the certification inspectors audit sales every year. I need to be able to provide receipts for all grain sales. I am sure that a determined cheat could get something slipped by. My inspector noted last year that he would be going over sales records with a very fine toothed comb if yields from conventional fields were under the yields for my organic ones, as that would likely be caused by selling conventional crop as organic.
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Loren SE IA
Posted 12/22/2015 21:56 (#4980212 - in reply to #4979591)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Kalona, IA

The prices of corn and beans have really dropped in the past 2 weeks as it has gotten cheaper to import because of the strong dollar. Last I heard it was $9 for corn and $20 for beans.

Not appearing to be the right timing for my plans of transitioning. Hard telling what it will be 3 yrs from now. 

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Dmpaul89
Posted 12/23/2015 11:25 (#4981245 - in reply to #4980212)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Sw. Ill		Depends how you do it, guys around here will plant organic beans, rotary hoe 3 or 4 times and let them go. Does the field look bad? yes. Will weeds get worse and worse? yes. But they will just rotate the field out of organic for a few years to build it back up with fertilizer and do it again. Rumor in the coffee shop is a guy planted 400 acres of organic beans and cleared $100k profit using the rotary hoe method in 2014. Its not sustainable though.
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sed
Posted 12/23/2015 17:07 (#4981909 - in reply to #4981245)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


southwest illinois		David

Where are these organic acres you talk about? I thought I knew Madison County

Fields that are organic around these parts generally stay in organic production and don't rotate back and forth as you suggest
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Bobcat712
Posted 12/23/2015 18:49 (#4982240 - in reply to #4981909)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Is there an Iowa market that pays for corn
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Blusteryknollfarm
Posted 12/23/2015 19:23 (#4982386 - in reply to #4982240)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


North Central Illinois		I don't know of any large merchandisers in Iowa, but I know Organic Valley buys in quite a few areas to ship directly to their dairy producers. One of the big challenges with maximizing returns in organic production is finding the best price, because there is quite a bit of spread between buyers. Often it is worth going quite a few extra miles to get the top prices.
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Blusteryknollfarm
Posted 12/23/2015 19:28 (#4982401 - in reply to #4981245)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


North Central Illinois		Gotta get through the two transition years though. If a guy is going to grow alfalfa for conventional livestock, this could really work well. Load up on fertility in the first alfalfa year, harvest alfalfa for two years without doing anything to transition, then organic corn, organic soybeans, organic wheat, then go back to alfalfa for a few years. Use manure during the organic years for fertility.
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3w farms
Posted 12/23/2015 11:38 (#4981278 - in reply to #4979591)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


S.E. Iowa		When all the costs of organic vs conventional are totaled, How does the bottom line compare.
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Crop Eagle
Posted 12/23/2015 12:19 (#4981373 - in reply to #4981278)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Michigan Thumb		To compare from first hand experience the margin is 3x in organic as conventional at a minimum

On 82 hybrids just south of Quebec organic corn returned $450 in profit an acre. Prices are better in the east
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Bobcat712
Posted 12/27/2015 13:47 (#4990382 - in reply to #4979591)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


Ware are the Midwest markets at
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Blusteryknollfarm
Posted 12/28/2015 00:22 (#4991686 - in reply to #4990382)
Subject: RE: Organic corn price?


North Central Illinois		I would suggest contacting the OFARM cooperative contact for your state. They are a great resource for connecting producers with market opportunities.

Clarkson Grain Company in Central IL, Grain Millers INC, and SunOpta are options for food grade grains. Organic Valley Co-op buys quite a bit for their livestock producers throughout the country.
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