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pilgrim
Posted 6/7/2015 08:47 (#4613008)
Subject: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

15 year old $25,000 planter and covers 1500 acres/yr



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NEILFarmer
Posted 6/7/2015 08:57 (#4613029 - in reply to #4613008)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


Morris, IL
25k, you got way to much tied into it, course yours is a 16 row and ours a 12. I think we paid 16,500 for this one 10 years ago, course we've spent lot on it since but still. Planter is a 91 and tractor is 98, less then 75k tied up in both of them. Side dressing this past week i was very happy with job planter did but i wasn't happy how much the cold weather and rains have thinned our stands in places. I did some math on few local operations running new planters, friend told me what they cost, adjusting for the amount of acres and we would have to have a 42k planter before we were even with few local large operations.

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pilgrim
Posted 6/7/2015 09:02 (#4613034 - in reply to #4613029)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

The v-sets, wave vision and up and down airbags should add some value ;  )

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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 6/7/2015 09:56 (#4613124 - in reply to #4613008)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Chebanse, IL.....

pilgrim.....question if you don't mind. I'm curious, since you put it in your profile, you list 2 domiciles. Pocahontas, IA & Ft Worth TX. Seems like a long dx to travel farming (800+ mis?). Or, what is the relationship of the 2 sites?

Again, just curious. Don't see 2 domiciles often.

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hillfarmer
Posted 6/7/2015 09:58 (#4613131 - in reply to #4613124)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



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Tired of Working
Posted 6/7/2015 12:16 (#4613345 - in reply to #4613124)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


Central Sask. RM#254, Canada
He must have two wives , you do not want them too close together as they may start comparing notes on your PERFORMANCE , or lac thereof ..
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Cardinal_Farms
Posted 6/7/2015 14:18 (#4613508 - in reply to #4613008)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


Central Iowa

Those are excellent pictures. I don't think that 25k is an excessive amount to have invested in a planter. Especially when compared to new planters. The dollars you have saved allows you to invest in other equipment or other things. By having row mounted hoppers you have a better balanced planter also. You are being resourseful in using your brain instead of your checkbook to achieve good results.

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Justin ArkMo
Posted 6/7/2015 14:32 (#4613531 - in reply to #4613008)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


The Delta
If there was no new iron sold, there would be no $25k dollar planters fellas...
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packerfan
Posted 6/7/2015 15:22 (#4613608 - in reply to #4613008)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


Western illinois
Mine is only 11. It's one of those pos bulk fill, pinch row compacting boat anchors that nobody wants. That's fine. It makes me money every year without more than it's worth in extra attachments.
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pilgrim
Posted 6/7/2015 22:10 (#4614553 - in reply to #4613124)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

Wife wants to get away from cold for winter so we bought house in FW. 8 monthis in Iowa and 4 down there.  Have no more livestock so works out.  Now have ground I am developing for winter months down there.

winter project



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pilgrim
Posted 6/7/2015 22:18 (#4614573 - in reply to #4613508)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

Hopefully to buy more farmground that is coming up this month!  Already lined up tiler for more to do this fall.  Those are investments that have paid handsomely........not rusting assets such as machinery.

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WoodlaneAG
Posted 6/8/2015 00:25 (#4614752 - in reply to #4613608)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


South Central Illinois
Yah but your cool factor is like a 2/10. No beacons, no rear work lights, girls probably laugh at that when you drive by. Is my 8370R even that backwards compatible to turn that thing on?
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 6/8/2015 05:36 (#4614826 - in reply to #4614553)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Chebanse, IL.....

OK...I understand. I assume no grain in farm storage or equipment to maintain/update.

I might also ask, what precipitated your original post? What made you want to criticize (wording in subject) newer (?) equipment? Did someone criticize more veteran tools on NAT? I missed it if so.

Again, just wondering.

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pilgrim
Posted 6/8/2015 07:31 (#4614986 - in reply to #4614826)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

You assume wrong. With $3.00 corn machinery cost is a part of COP.



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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 6/8/2015 13:44 (#4615475 - in reply to #4614986)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Chebanse, IL.....

pilgrim

Not sure of relevance of your reply. Who said maintenance is not part of COP?

I was asking what precipitated your original need to backhandedly belittle those w/newer equipment? You said something about well maintained equipment being (working?) better than new equipment. You obviously hava a target to your post. I'm asking if you care to expound on the target or the reason for the post origination.

It's just me asking, that's all. I'm not arguing or challenging, just asking.

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thunderhut
Posted 6/8/2015 13:59 (#4615489 - in reply to #4613008)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


Mn
A fifteen year old planter is not "old" in some areas.....
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pilgrim
Posted 6/8/2015 19:30 (#4615935 - in reply to #4615475)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

How is what I said belittling? 

A lot of equipment has been bought the last few years because of increased incomes.  Production is to the point the reason to have machinery and they have a cost associated with them (depreciation costs, housing costs, insurance cost, interest costs and R and M costs).  We then manage these cost and hopefully retain a profit....lower cost = more profit.  That is a farmers goal or do you see that different?  Other than that I don't know what you are asking. 

 

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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 6/8/2015 21:27 (#4616223 - in reply to #4615935)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Chebanse, IL.....

From the way you write, this is what you implied:

trump

noun

Definition of TRUMP

1
a :  a card of a suit any of whose cards will win over a card that is not of this suit —called also trump card
b :  the suit whose cards are trumps for a particular hand —often used in plural
2
a decisive overriding factor or final resource —called also trump card
3
:  a dependable and exemplary person
 
You were trying to say that you are better than a farmer w/a newer planter because his is newer & yours is maintained.
If I'm wrong, what point were you trying to make & who were you referring to when you said "trumps new equipment...". That was your subject. Has someone questioned your profit motives, plans or goals that caused this post? Why do you care the age of other's equipment?
 
 
 
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pilgrim
Posted 6/8/2015 22:24 (#4616362 - in reply to #4616223)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

See if this satisfies you:

A new planter cannot do a better job than the planter I have.  Thus a well maintained planter trumps a new one as the cost to operate is less.

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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 6/9/2015 05:11 (#4616562 - in reply to #4616362)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Chebanse, IL.....

OK...it's obvious the position you are maintaining which was the intended point in your op. Nothing to do w/economics. I can see you understand also.

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nlegler
Posted 6/9/2015 07:13 (#4616684 - in reply to #4613034)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


NC Iowa

Hey you forgot the 20/20!!!

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pilgrim
Posted 6/9/2015 07:19 (#4616700 - in reply to #4616562)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

Nothing to do w/economics.

What??????????????????????

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Big Ben
Posted 6/9/2015 13:48 (#4617160 - in reply to #4616362)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
pilgrim - 6/8/2015 20:24

See if this satisfies you:

A new planter cannot do a better job than the planter I have.  Thus a well maintained planter trumps a new one as the cost to operate is less.



That's all well and good if the older equipment is available with the same capacity as the new. However, there are a lot of things now where the capacity of the new dwarfs that of the old. In those cases it isn't so universally true as you make it sound that the old one costs less to operate.
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 6/9/2015 18:28 (#4617486 - in reply to #4616700)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Chebanse, IL.....

pilgrim

You know exactly what I mean & your intent has nothing to do w/economics. I'm OK on economicis of new & old equipment. I do not target other readers in general no matter their age or the age/brand of their equipment. No need for that. Your op intent was to ridicule & I see no sense in it. You keep twisting & turning the message, but the intent still lies in your subject line.

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pilgrim
Posted 6/9/2015 19:02 (#4617544 - in reply to #4617486)
Subject: RE: Well maintained equipment trumps new equipment



Pocahontas, IA

Your pretty twisted for no reason.  Maybe you can snooker some old ladies with your ability to read minds.  Who did I target?  How did my post ridicule.  It seems most of the follow up posts understood my intent...except the butlick who commented about two wives and yourself.

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