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hobby95
Posted 2/3/2013 21:09 (#2872963)
Subject: Challenger quad trac


SW MINNESOTA
Talking to my wife's uncle after church today who sells for a cat dealer about tractors. He said rumor is out a little of a quad track version of there articulated tractor. Anyone else here anything like that? When does the patent that case has run out?
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young buck1
Posted 2/3/2013 21:11 (#2872974 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Sibley county Minesota
A friend of mine was talking to the CaseIH dealer and he is suppose to have pictures.
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WillB
Posted 2/3/2013 21:16 (#2873007 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Patent questions?


Ontario Canada
If signifigant changes are made in the design, would they be able to build it without violating any patent laws?
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young buck1
Posted 2/3/2013 21:19 (#2873025 - in reply to #2873007)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Sibley county Minesota
Paint it green?
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Jim Beam
Posted 2/3/2013 21:21 (#2873035 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Roaming the plains
Aftermarket tracks slapped on like NH and Deere?
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canadian farmer
Posted 2/3/2013 21:33 (#2873075 - in reply to #2873035)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


They don't slap them on, they Photoshop them on ;)  Straight from ATI's website.





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young buck1
Posted 2/3/2013 21:37 (#2873084 - in reply to #2873075)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Sibley county Minesota
A yellow New Holland.
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WillB
Posted 2/3/2013 21:43 (#2873097 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Who will be first?


Ontario Canada
Versy or Challenger?
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Claas740
Posted 2/3/2013 21:58 (#2873155 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: RE: Challenger quad trac


Personally when I look at a two track system compared to a 4WD or a front wheel assist with duals and the fancy front end you would think a two track system would be cheaper to make. You only have one drive axle virsus two, you don't have the articulation which can't be cheap to make. And 8 big tires can't be much more than two tracks. So then if you look at a quad track it has to cost alot more than a two track system.
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duramaximizer
Posted 2/3/2013 22:15 (#2873215 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Plus you have all of the driveline loss from the transfer case and turning another differential. 2 track machines should always be more fuel efficient. But quadtracks mud really well if that's your thing.
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12farmer
Posted 2/3/2013 22:56 (#2873328 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Central SD
a quad will pull hills straighter and turn way better in wet conditions. Other than cost the quad is superior. We run both. 9630T and a 9560 with ATI tracks.
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DrAllis
Posted 2/4/2013 05:55 (#2873533 - in reply to #2873328)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Superior ?? every design has its pluses and its minuses and until the Quad-Trak system has the life expectancy of a two-track system, it clearly ain't superior. Last time I checked it was about 50% life compared to a Cat/AGCO design track system.
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Jim Beam
Posted 2/4/2013 07:15 (#2873636 - in reply to #2873533)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Roaming the plains
Can you verify that claim?
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jasonl
Posted 2/4/2013 07:25 (#2873655 - in reply to #2873533)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


midwest

Prove it!!  I call BS

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jpmill79
Posted 2/4/2013 08:37 (#2873794 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac



Northwest Illinois
CaseIH is about to have some real competition. Every brand is coming with a quad in the next year or so. NH and JD have the ATI system now and Versatile is coming with one with Camoplast modules. I'm not shocked that Agco is following suit.
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Tazzerblue
Posted 2/4/2013 08:45 (#2873814 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Patent a German WII Tank Drive system?


SW MN
I'd like to see how you can patent or copy a system developed in WW2 or the new US tanks?
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Thud
Posted 2/4/2013 10:43 (#2874003 - in reply to #2873814)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


Near-north Ontario, French River
What "tank" track system do you see being copied?? Kinda lost me there.
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KevinBfromIllinois
Posted 2/4/2013 12:25 (#2874183 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: RE: Challenger quad trac


RINGWOOD, IL
caseIH often imitated never duplicated Unless you jd then just copy and say it was your idea.
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plowboy
Posted 2/4/2013 12:37 (#2874205 - in reply to #2872963)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac



Brazilton KS
What patent are you talking about?
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canadian farmer
Posted 2/4/2013 18:55 (#2874882 - in reply to #2874205)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


The patent Case IH has on 4-track tractor design.  No one has ever seen it, because it doesn't exist... lol  

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hobby95
Posted 2/5/2013 01:08 (#2875779 - in reply to #2874882)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac


SW MINNESOTA
Just curious if patent don't exist why has no one else built one yet but apparently all looking at it now
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plowboy
Posted 2/6/2013 19:34 (#2879896 - in reply to #2875779)
Subject: Re: Challenger quad trac



Brazilton KS

Bell has been building one for years. 

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