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tomatofarmer
Posted 12/14/2012 19:55 (#2752008)
Subject: Deere 2210 field cultivator


NW Ohio
Is there much of a difference in accu-depth control compared to single-point control? This is on a floating hitch model. I have run accu-depth before just want to know if I can save the money and get the same results with single point.
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Dennis SEND
Posted 12/14/2012 22:57 (#2752452 - in reply to #2752008)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator



In my opnion single point is a 100 times better, for one reason mainly it is simple to operate and it just plain WORKS, I know of several older guys that just can't quite get the knack of clicking the switch to make it work right, and there is always the factor of extra electronics that have no place on a FC again just my opnion, I had one, had lots of trouble after it got some age on it and switched mine over to single point also have a new one coming in March and it will also have single point.

Edited by Dennis SEND 12/14/2012 23:42
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coconutfarmer
Posted 12/14/2012 22:57 (#2752454 - in reply to #2752008)
Subject: RE: Deere 2210 field cultivator


Eastern Ontario
The convenience of the accu-depth is definitely worth the cost especially if it is a larger unit. Pretty hard to compare single point to it.
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Dennis SEND
Posted 12/14/2012 23:42 (#2752564 - in reply to #2752454)
Subject: RE: Deere 2210 field cultivator



coconutfarmer - 12/14/2012 21:57

The convenience of the accu-depth is definitely worth the cost especially if it is a larger unit. Pretty hard to compare single point to it.


Last time I checked there still is only one crank to adjust the depth doesn't matter if it is a 15' or a 60' so guess I didn't realize it was that hard to get out of the cab and turn the crank a couple of times if you wanted it deeper/shallower, is that what farming has come to that all we want to do is push buttons, guess I like to get out of the cab once in awhile to take a leak if nothing else.

Edited by Dennis SEND 12/15/2012 00:22
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150 farmer
Posted 12/15/2012 00:09 (#2752604 - in reply to #2752564)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


Pontiac, IL.
The larger the FC , the more accu-depth is needed, unless you have ground that is as flat as a table top. The accu-depth will follow the contour of the ground MUCH better. We bought a used 50.5' accu-depth, and have run it for 3 or 4 seasons with NO problems. Would NEVER go back to single point.
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Dennis SEND
Posted 12/15/2012 00:15 (#2752611 - in reply to #2752604)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator



Maybe I never realized the full advatages of Accu-Depth but please explain to me how on a large 50'+ FC one with Accu-Depth follows the ground better than single point, cause as far as I know (and I could be wrong) but basically Accu-Depth allows you to set depth from cab, it allows to put in any given section deeper if you want to but don't remember anything about it following the ground contour better??

Edit: Here is exactly what it says on JD webpage about Accu-Depth!!

AccuDepth provides accurate and precise depth control by the use of individual wheel sensors and electronic circuitry, to perform tasks of leveling and depth measurements unprecedented in the industry until now.


Single-point depth control offers the same consistency in depth with a convenient one-location crank to adjust the entire width of the implement.



Edited by Dennis SEND 12/15/2012 00:21
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 12/15/2012 06:52 (#2752740 - in reply to #2752008)
Subject: RE: Deere 2210 field cultivator



Chebanse, IL

tomatofarmer

Will you be pulling the fc w/a late-model JD tractor? If so, and that tractor has something like a 2630 screen, you'll enjoy the Accu-depth a lot more. If you don't have a JD tractor, then the add-on box isn't quite so enjoyable, I don't think. We started out w/a 2210 fc w/accu-depth on a Versatile 4wd. Got the add-on box for the cab hydraulics. It was just "OK". At that point, I probably didn't care if we got another accu-depth or not. Then, when we switched to JD tractors, everything became much easier w/Accu-depth. Looking at the accu depth layout on the 2600-2630 screen made life easier.

But then, we changed from a 2210 fc to a 2310 mulch finisher. No AccuDepth offered. I'm not sure why not. However, the JD TouchSet is offered. Again, if you have a JD tractor, the TouchSet is the option I always want, if AccuDepth isn't available. TouchSet is kind of 1/2 way between single point "get out & crank" & AccuDepth. AccuDepth does allow control of each individual wheel  height while TouchSet is just an electronic form of controlling the depth of the single point. So, they're not the same, but close. With single point external crank, you will set your max depth on the frame depth crank & that's it. TouchSet allows you to have a max working depth, which you can instantly increase/decrease while on the move, and you can temporiraly increase/decrease operating depth on the move & still return to that desired electronic operating depth. It also allows you to set a "turning raise height", which allows you to set a height to raise the fc for turning, but not yet for transport. When it's time to transport, you override the TouchSet & the implement will raise to it's maximum height.

TouchSet can usually be added if it's not on the implement presently. We have also added TouchSet to tools that are not JD or don't offer the option. It's just a rheostat that rides on the machine frame & senses off the mechanical portion of the lift system. We added one to a FAST coulter applicator & it worked like a charm.

Also have to add, we never had a mechanical, hydraulic, or electronic issue w/the Accu-Depth on the 2210 FC....none. Photo below shows the TouchSet we added to the FAST applicator. These are the same parts you'd see on a FC or a chisel plow, etc.

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gomer
Posted 12/15/2012 08:27 (#2752842 - in reply to #2752008)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


Tazewell County Illinois
Dennis what did it cost to go from accu depth to single point
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tomatofarmer
Posted 12/15/2012 08:29 (#2752844 - in reply to #2752008)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


NW Ohio
Thanks for all the replies. We are running accu-depth on the command center on our 9R looking at buying another for this year. Think I should stay with the accu-depth
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collegeboy
Posted 12/15/2012 09:52 (#2753000 - in reply to #2752842)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator



Slicker than a Yes album.
Single-Point Depth Control 4010 ($653.00)

Includes depth indicator.


We had issues with it, too. Like the simplicity of the single point. No problems with depth, all sections are held by a set of tandems and the caster wheel out front.



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johndeere430u
Posted 12/15/2012 09:54 (#2753007 - in reply to #2752844)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


Central, mn
Have a 2410 chisel with accu depth. Hate it! If we had the money to trade I would, won't own another
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Chad H
Posted 12/15/2012 12:59 (#2753313 - in reply to #2752842)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


NE SD

At one time Deere offered a kit to switch over to single point at a reasonable cost. Last year when we were looking at chisel plows you had to buy all the parts individually and it was shockingly high to do a 3 section. Something like $7k?

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Chad H
Posted 12/15/2012 13:03 (#2753316 - in reply to #2752740)
Subject: RE: Deere 2210 field cultivator


NE SD

Ron, did the touchset work good on the sidedress bar? I have had trouble getting the right stops in to maintain depth on center section.

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bpreuss
Posted 12/15/2012 13:27 (#2753359 - in reply to #2752008)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


SW MN
have a 50.5 ft 2210 with accudepth. love it. so easy to fine tune the depth from the cab as you go through the field, especially if you have lower areas that are a little wet. never had a single problem with it. We have a 2410 chisel with single point and wish we would have gotten that with accudepth also.

I dont see what there is to hate about acccudepth?
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johndeere430u
Posted 12/15/2012 13:34 (#2753372 - in reply to #2753359)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


Central, mn
Locks up and doesn't read right on the display regarding how deep u are. Just a pain with hired hands trying to fix over the phone
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Dennis SEND
Posted 12/15/2012 14:43 (#2753512 - in reply to #2752842)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator



I was luckly enought to convert my 3 section 2200 from accu-depth to single point back in 2007 when JD still offered a "kit" however Deere no longer has this "convesion kit" avaible I beleive I paid about 3500 to change it over, now you would have to buy all the stuff through parts so it would cost a lot more, neighbors changed a 5 section over last winter, they took the cylinders to a hydraulic type store, thinking they could redo them however they ended up replacing them all, but they purchased aftermarket cylinders at a huge cost savings of JD (however they were painted red so they did have to repaint them) and they have a hyd hose machine so they made up all there own hoses and they said they redid a 5 section machine for about 3000 not including labor and obviously the Deere price didn't include labor either, also pretty shure a person could almost pay for a decent hose machine with the cost savings of buying hose in a bulk roll and some ends over getting hoses made at a dealer.

Edited by Dennis SEND 12/15/2012 22:26
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Dennis SEND
Posted 12/15/2012 14:55 (#2753534 - in reply to #2752008)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator



I main problem I had with mine, before I started having major issuses, was if you were going around a low area and just wanted to raise the FC just a little it would not stay level unless you clicked the button to go all the way up, same thing going back down if you didn't click the button not all the sections would be the same depth in the ground, I personally never had a lot of trouble running it myself but my Dad could never get the hang of "clicking" the button he likes to just hold it do go up and hold it to go down (remember he came from the days when you actually had to use a LEVER to make it do up and down and even started out pulling a rope in his younger days, and old habits are hard to change) and for that single point is a lot simpler and works everytime. Also trying to explain to him how do change the depth on the display over the phone/radio sucked (If I am looking at a screen I can do just about anything on a display but if not looking at a screen it is hard for me to tell someone how to change stuff) where with the single point it is pretty easy to get out and turn the crank if you want it deeper/shallower.

Edited by Dennis SEND 12/15/2012 14:58
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 12/15/2012 18:57 (#2753981 - in reply to #2753372)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator



Chebanse, IL

jd430u

What tractor are you pulling it with?

I can truly understand that as you start offering more adjustment variables, you start creating more problems for some operators. I'm sure the same is with combine, planter, or sprayer adjustments.

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johndeere430u
Posted 12/15/2012 20:20 (#2754127 - in reply to #2753981)
Subject: Re: Deere 2210 field cultivator


Central, mn
Pulling it with an 9520
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