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rank
Posted 6/3/2012 11:08 (#2411967)
Subject: brillion seeder


SEON		I am using a 15' Great Plains drill with a small seed box attachment for sowing alfalfa/timothy into worked ground. It's got a 7.5" spacing and I pull the seed tubes off the row units and tow a cultipacker behind the drill. Th eland that I work has some clay in it and I think sometimes it can be tough to get it worked enough to get the best emergence......(headlands often are the best part of the field).

I found a 10' Brillion seeder for $3,000 but I have never seen one before.
1. What row spacing do they have?
2. Would I get a better stand with than from my current system?
3. Do I need to pull a cultipacker behind it?

I can't imagine going back to a 10' drill but then again, it drives me nuts having to stop every few acres to fill the small box I have now. I probably do over 100 acres a year on average.
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Edited by rank 6/3/2012 11:08
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nutman61
Posted 6/3/2012 11:52 (#2412038 - in reply to #2411967)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


WI.		That's a good question. I'd like to know the correct answer to it. I see a lot of the big dairies around here have such beautiful looking stands of alfalfa, thicker than the hair on a dogs back. I'm not happy with the stand I get from a JD drill with a grass seed attachment on it. I agree, my headlands are the best looking part of the field.
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dave morgan
Posted 6/3/2012 12:13 (#2412059 - in reply to #2411967)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


Somerville, Indiana		The Brillion we have drops the seed over the cultipacker wheels of the seeder...Works great for alfalfa, anything that needs shallow seeding depth...The stand comes up like its solid seeded...No advantage to pulling a packer behind it, unless the Brillion you refer to is different than those 'here', it has its own packer wheels.

PS: it has two seed boxes, one for small seed crops and the other for large seed like brome grass?..Should be able to find a 12 ft model for $1000.

Edited by dave morgan 6/3/2012 12:17
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breweye
Posted 6/3/2012 12:39 (#2412085 - in reply to #2412059)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


eastern ontario		we use a 12ft brillion. Like Dave said it has no row spacing. Set it and forget it. We pack all our hay stands before we plant with the brillion. When it is dry enough in the spring we will work bean stuble once with a RTS then pack it then use the brillion. I think we get great stands with that method
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kentucky scott
Posted 6/3/2012 15:51 (#2412354 - in reply to #2412085)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


What is a RTS?Thanks
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Thud
Posted 6/3/2012 18:46 (#2412572 - in reply to #2412354)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


Near-north Ontario, French River		Salford RTS, coulter type vertical tillage implement.
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rank
Posted 6/3/2012 16:48 (#2412403 - in reply to #2412085)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


SEON		it seems they are well liked. it's hard to imagine that it could be that much different than my setup with the seed tubes disconnected and the cultipacker in tow. I used 20#/ac alfalfa. That's a long way from 10#. That $3000 Brillion would pay for itself in 75 acres lol.
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PeteMN
Posted 6/4/2012 03:56 (#2413274 - in reply to #2412059)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


E.Central MN		I doubt you'll find a 12' model for $1000 these days, more like $2500-3500 for a used one that needs some work.
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IAhaymakr
Posted 6/3/2012 12:39 (#2412084 - in reply to #2411967)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


Northwest iowa		The brillion will do a good job of seeding alfalfa and grasses more consistantly than anything else out there. They do best with a good firm and LEVEL seedbed. Culitpacker ahead of the brillion is good, a few trips with a six section drag before the cultipacker even better. Having the seedbed firm enough that you don't leave a shoeprint when walking around is what will work best. Thats why the headlands end up looking best for those who don't firm the field enough. Most brillion seeders, except the newest ones will not have very big seed boxes. A ten footer might hold two bags. The seed meters I think are about 5" apart but it generally scatters as it falls so not in rows. I seed 500 or so acres every year for myself and neighbors, most of it with the two brillions and a tandem hitch, but some with a CaseIH 5400 drill when I want to use a nurse crop. It is always fun to watch my stands compared to those who let the coop blow it on with a floater. We get a better stand with less seed every time and haven't had a failure yet. 3k for the brillion is a fair price even if it needs a few things. Parts from brillion are actually quite reasonable.
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ultrafarmer
Posted 6/3/2012 14:53 (#2412282 - in reply to #2412084)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


scks		1+ haymaker. Have a 12ft. Brillion seeder here and plant alfalfa with it every year. Hands down the best way. Little slow when your looking at a big field ahead of you but worth the extra time.
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jtmcc57
Posted 6/3/2012 15:59 (#2412361 - in reply to #2411967)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


Bloomfield, KY.		I no-till anything I possibly can, but when I used to seed alfalfa, I always worked the ground and sowed with my Brillion seeder. 9# of seed would be plenty to get a beautiful stand, so it paid for itself in lower seed costs in no time.

It was such a good way to seed alfalfa that people were always asking to borrow it. It got treated a little rough by some folks. lol

The newer ones have much bigger seed boxes than mine has, and may be built tougher.

Jack McClaskey
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minn gopher
Posted 6/3/2012 18:23 (#2412545 - in reply to #2412361)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


Pine City, MN		brillion is the best here for seeding alfalfa.. We landroll before and after.. Leave the fields very smooth..



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nutman61
Posted 6/3/2012 19:13 (#2412621 - in reply to #2412545)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


WI.		Are you putting a cover crop with that ??
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minn gopher
Posted 6/3/2012 19:22 (#2412632 - in reply to #2412621)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


Pine City, MN
nutman61 - 6/3/2012 18:13

Are you putting a cover crop with that ??


direct seeding.. We never use a cover crop here..
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3w farms
Posted 6/3/2012 18:31 (#2412548 - in reply to #2411967)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


S.E. Iowa		Ive got a 12 ft, its seems crude and primative with removable transport wheels, but it does the best job of seeding of any machine out there.
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Lone Wolf Picker
Posted 6/3/2012 18:54 (#2412587 - in reply to #2412548)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


Black Hawk County, IA		dave morgan reply was spot on . Have a SS12 3pt and get perfect stands everytime. Avg 8-10 ac/hr. J
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Lone Wolf Picker
Posted 6/3/2012 18:55 (#2412590 - in reply to #2412548)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


Black Hawk County, IA		dave morgan reply was spot on . Have a SS12 3pt and get perfect stands everytime. Avg 8-10 ac/hr. J
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mmaddox
Posted 6/3/2012 19:24 (#2412637 - in reply to #2412590)
Subject: Re: brillion seeder


Have used a Great Plains/Land Pride version of the Brillion Sure Stand seeder. Large seed box, does a great job. People line up to rent it. 10' does get a bit old, used to have a squadron hitch for two, but took some ability to turn with it. Best way to seed small grains that need to be crushed in. We usually run 15 lbs. of alfalfa to get the same stand as other methods with 25 lbs.
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JohnW
Posted 6/4/2012 02:52 (#2413266 - in reply to #2411967)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


NW Washington		I would definitely pull a roller like the Brillion seeder has behind the drill. How much soil is the drill openers throwing around? Are you seeding oats or some other "nurse" crop with the alfalfa?
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rank
Posted 6/4/2012 06:11 (#2413283 - in reply to #2413266)
Subject: RE: brillion seeder


SEON
JohnW - 6/4/2012 02:52
I would definitely pull a roller like the Brillion seeder has behind the drill.

yeah, the one I pull is a Turnco sprocket and rib type cultipacker deal the same as everyone else has.

JohnW - 6/4/2012 02:52How much soil is the drill openers throwing around? Are you seeding oats or some other "nurse" crop with the alfalfa?

This year I ran annual rye grass through the big box. Sometimes I will use brome grass.
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