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timis
Posted 10/6/2011 10:37 (#1992954)
Subject: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Well cause I couldnt find what I was looking for I decided last month to have the old N6 make it another year. After taking a day off work and getting about 5 acres cut I'm thinking I'd better do something. I have a 6 row hugger corn head and 320 bean platform - currently looking at 2 r50's both with about 3500 engine and 2500 sep hours, I can get one bought for 15 and the other 22. Also looking at a r60 and r70 both with 3500 engine and 2200-2600 sep hours for 25k. I was really hoping to save a couple years and get a 62. My wife was really pissed cause yesterdays breakdown was another 12:00 fix it night. For you gleaner guys how much capacity do you gain with the bigger combines - thats where I really struggle - on beans I've got to take time off and if something breaks I'm screwed. What about reliability b/w the models - I read on the combine forum that the 50 is basically the same as the 2 series except for the cab. In corn my bottleneck is keeping grain away from the n6 so I dont need more capacity - but on beans getting home at 5 usually only gives me a couple hours until they get tough. I understand the normal wrenching on a combine but 1-2 hours a day for the little crap (fixes not greasing) and 1-2 days a year wasted is really starting to cost me $'s. I'd like to demo yet this year - so I can actually see how they compare to the 6. I always wanted to skip the deutz and go right to the water cooled - but I'm about 3 yrs from that, and I dont think the 6er will make it that far- well it might, but I also might die of a heart attack from the stress its giving me.
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Ed Boysun
Posted 10/6/2011 10:54 (#1992962 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: RE: combine upgrade options - Gleaner



R50 is a step down in capacity from an N6. It has a P3 processor but the cylinder is shorter. For some reason, I thought the the later R60 & R70 Hawk Series had a P3 processor??? If true, that would make them about the same as the 2 series but with the older cab and similar in capacity to your N6.

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mcupps
Posted 10/6/2011 10:57 (#1992963 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit!
I had a friend go from a 6 to a 50 and he said that that capacity was not an issue because he would be done with the field with the 50 before he made it one round with the 6 and fixed the processor sweep twice and bolted the stuff that fell off back on. But his 6 was real high hour and the 50 was medium hour. So im sure hours had a lot to do with reliabilty.
on the 50 the deutz 6 cylinder shouldn't give you as many heat up/ parts availiabilty headaces as the V8s. and its easyier to work on.
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mcupps
Posted 10/6/2011 10:59 (#1992965 - in reply to #1992962)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit!
They do and the 91 R60s look almost like a R62, but most people aren't giving them away and for there price, one might as well get a 62.
http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6027407...
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berggrenfarms
Posted 10/6/2011 12:31 (#1993002 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle
If I was you Id do what we did. We ran a 60 until we could uprgrade to the painted series 62s. I agree that a 50 would be a step down from a N6. The only advantage is the P3. Yes some did have the P3 our 91 R60 had one. The deutz is a pretty good engine, as long as you keep it really clean and fix any and all oil leaks immediatly. Depending on where you are I know of a very nice R60 for sale. Reliabilty is the same on all of them, although the later 62s have less belts and things on the side
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timis
Posted 10/6/2011 14:36 (#1993061 - in reply to #1993002)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


I'm located in NW iowa
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hwdcne
Posted 10/6/2011 14:46 (#1993066 - in reply to #1993061)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Soutwest Ks.

Whatever you do, I wouldn't go with a V8 Deutz. I owned a 1991 R-60 for a few years, still have nightmares about that thing! LOL  Incidentally what makes you think that you will actually better the reliability going with another relatively high hour machine?  That will be a gamble in my opinion and you might as well have kept the old machine.  If you are a small, part time farmer wouldn't you be better off having your crop custom harvested?



Edited by hwdcne 10/6/2011 14:49
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McCartman
Posted 10/6/2011 14:58 (#1993071 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner



If you are considering an R50 and looking for reliability, I would most certainly opt for a Series 2. The processors are the same, yes - but the Series 2's are worlds ahead of the old Deutz-Allis Gleaners for staying going in the fields. We had both and I would not want to go back to an R50. The Series 2's we've had have been rock solid though - very few problems with them.
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berggrenfarms
Posted 10/6/2011 16:44 (#1993130 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle
We had 0 problems with our V8 deutz. Speaking of our old R60 its the one for sale. Its located at Hillbills Diesel in Spalding NE. Ask for Mark and tell him Berggrens sent you. Its got pretty new augers in the bin, made of heavy duty sectional flighting, a stainless steel liner in the bottom of the bin. the auger tube and flighting are pretty new too. We never had any problems with it, I wouldnt be afraid to combine 1000 acres right now with it. It handled a 25ft flex head with no problems. Biggest reasons we traded it for our 62 was that we gained lateral tilt and the CDF rotor along with the longer shoe.
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mcupps
Posted 10/6/2011 20:13 (#1993246 - in reply to #1993130)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit!
Was yours turboed?
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dixonman
Posted 10/6/2011 21:35 (#1993388 - in reply to #1993061)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


They sell dirt cheap at Ted Everetts sale in Indy if you happen to see a nice gleaner in his sale would be worth your trip,
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Fawazhay
Posted 10/7/2011 01:15 (#1993779 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Northern CA
I had an N6 and an R50 for wheat. I did not like the N6 and replaced it with the N7. Yes, the 50 is a smaller machine. But, coming from an N6, it is so much simpler and more reliable. There are so many fewer belts, etc. I love the 6 cylinder Deutz. It doesn't drink any fuel. I think I am less than 2 gallons per acre. My R50 has around 2800 engine hours and no separator hour meter. I would buy the two R50s if you can afford it. You will have a reliable backup or a machine for a neighbor to run if you are behind. Heck, a 50 is so simple your wife or kid could run it. I just rented with a neighbor a 1992 R72 and opted on not buying it. My neighbor did, though. The R50 seems even easier to work on than the R72. Yes, it has an older cab, but the A/C is better, if that matters to you. It does to us. Only you can make your decisions and all this advice is free, so take mine for what it is worth. You can't go wrong with an R50.
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berggrenfarms
Posted 10/7/2011 10:34 (#1994140 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle
No ours was not turboed and it also had a special equipment cooling package on it. We never ran out of power with it and did very well on fuel, probably better than the 8.3 in our 62 does now
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bobcan
Posted 10/7/2011 18:04 (#1994468 - in reply to #1992954)
Subject: Re: combine upgrade options - Gleaner


SK.. in Frozen Cold Western Canada
Don't know what you are looking for, but our 1996 R52 is about as nice as you could ever find, regardless of the year!! One Owner, many repairs to 'make like new' 150+hrs ago and needs a 'good home'..
https://picasaweb.google.com/bob.yxe/GleanerR52SN56038?authuser=0&au...

Reply with an email and I'll FWD more info to you.. We had a person put a Deposit on it, but his crops were kinda weak and he couldn't afford to pay for it this year.. I sent his $$ back because I felt bad.. :-/
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timis
Posted 10/10/2011 10:27 (#1998114 - in reply to #1994468)
Subject: Cant find ur e-mail


Must be doing somthing wrong or its right infront of me and cant see it - looks sharp
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