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nwksdiesel
Posted 9/4/2011 13:06 (#1945801)
Subject: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


Northwest Ks
Looking at a case 2594 and dont know much about them, still the white an black, wondering what problem areas they had to look for? Done a little reading and of course the 6 speed pw-shift is prefered. What number of hours do you not even think about it. Basically going to be a backup drilling tractor here in wheat country but would probably get some time on a 550bu cart and an 8 row planter, maybe baler too, but that would be about it, no tillage. Its either this or 4840, just trying to get some cheap horsepower for about 150-200 hours a year. Thanks
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packerfan
Posted 9/4/2011 13:20 (#1945829 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: RE: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



illinois
the 94 series didn't have problems that the 90s had as long
as the trans. fluid was changed. good, strong motors that run
low rpm (2200). only thing to keep in mind when doing pto
work is don't leave the shifter in reverse with pto engagaed if sitting still.
cabs are not bad for a tractor that age. the cab fan doesn't put out
much air, but not a big deal. i would take the case cab over the crossed
eyed deere any day. i had a 2394,3594 and still own a 2294.
all have been very reliable. can't wait to hear the green guys start bashing them.
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Ries Farms
Posted 9/4/2011 13:21 (#1945830 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


SE MN & NE IA
Buy the 4840. It is twice the tractor the case is. We had one and had numerous pto problems. They occur when you use the pto in reverse....even a sticker in the cab that tells you not use use reverse when the pto is on. We also had lots of brake problems and tranny problems. The engine was great...lots of power and torque....and started even in sub zero weather without being plugged in. Ours had 5600 hours on it and never had a wrench on it. Nice cab too but the other problems were just too expennsive to fix all the time. Our mechanic even said the best mechanic can't fix bad engineering. The 4840 will still be worth what you paid for it years from now. We actually replaced our 2594 with a 4840...no comparison. Not trying to start a color war here folks....just sharing experiences. Good luck!
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Fla Veggie Farmer
Posted 9/4/2011 13:36 (#1945848 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: RE: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


Southeast Florida
This is a no-brainer, the 4840 JD. There are very few guys left that know how to work on the CASE transmissions. The way you spot where there is a mechanic for them in the area is they're still in the fields working. There's probably 100 to 1 mechanics for the JD power shift also. Parts are getting hard to come by also for the CASE. I know where there’s a bunch of 25 & 3594's at in Arkansas but they're all in the weeds with transmission problems because the mechanic retired.
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nwksdiesel
Posted 9/4/2011 13:45 (#1945860 - in reply to #1945848)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


Northwest Ks
local dealer has 1175's 1070's 1370's 2390's split in there shop all the time so i would think they could handle it, and a quote for clutch packs and labor on a 4440 from deere the other day was 15k so i'm a little tired of throwing money at green paint
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NMO Redpower
Posted 9/4/2011 13:48 (#1945870 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



MO
The Case would be way easier on fuel and have a better cab. The 4840 won't start unless its above 50 degrees. Case would have 12 or 24 speeds, the 4840 would only have 8, none of which are the right ones. For what they are bringing if either one had a catastophic tranny failure, they both would go to the bone yard. I would also keep an eye out for a 5288 or a 5488.
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farmb0y
Posted 9/4/2011 13:52 (#1945874 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


EC IA
We've got a 2294 with the MFWD, 4500 hrs and is getting used more now than it did when we got it 10yrs ago. Ours has been a good tractor, always used to push snow in the winter. Has been "reassigned" as the chore tractor and put a loader on it. Use it for mowing and baling hay. I don't know if its just the tractor, but the AC is ice cold, kinda nice when mowing hay and moving bales compared to the open station tractor I used to use.

I bet for the price of a case vs. JD, you could buy the Case, put some money in it to fix it up and still cost less than the JD.
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alilfarmer
Posted 9/4/2011 13:54 (#1945881 - in reply to #1945870)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


south central manitoba
had 2590 great tractor till tranny started to act up spent 15k on it and it still would not work right traded it on a 846 2590 still on the dealers lot 2 years later
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BobCat
Posted 9/4/2011 14:06 (#1945899 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


Illinois
We had a 1984 2594 that had about 5800 hours when we traded it in 2009. The main reason we traded it was I needed more hydraulics that the tractor could provide but other wise a sound tractor.
The main problem we had was it would get caught in gear while the shifter lever was in park and broke a tooth off the parking brake. I was in a hurry to get out, put it into park real fast and broke a tooth before I could hit the clutch.
Never have had a problem with the PTO. Run it on a grain vac to blow corn into two Harvestores for many years.
Get a 6 speed if possible although 3 will work fine.
The tractors are cheap horsepower, easy to work on though you may have to wait for a parts order.
Somedays I wish I had the 2594 back. Never had a circuit board go bad to ruin your day.
Good luck, Bob
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6thGeneration
Posted 9/4/2011 14:35 (#1945928 - in reply to #1945830)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



Wisconsin

Ries Farms - 9/4/2011 12:21 Buy the 4840. It is twice the tractor the case is. We had one and had numerous pto problems. They occur when you use the pto in reverse....even a sticker in the cab that tells you not use use reverse when the pto is on. We also had lots of brake problems and tranny problems. The engine was great...lots of power and torque....and started even in sub zero weather without being plugged in. Ours had 5600 hours on it and never had a wrench on it. Nice cab too but the other problems were just too expennsive to fix all the time. Our mechanic even said the best mechanic can't fix bad engineering. The 4840 will still be worth what you paid for it years from now. We actually replaced our 2594 with a 4840...no comparison. Not trying to start a color war here folks....just sharing experiences. Good luck!

 

I must be missing something in this reply, so I am asking.  You had one with numerous pto problems, then said in 5600 hours you never had a wrench on it?  You later mentioned that there is even a sticker in the cab telling you NOT to run pto with shifter in reverse, yet you still did?  How can one have lots of brake and tranny problems if a wrench was never applied?

With a maintenance plan like the one you described, I am surprised ANYTHING works well after a year or two.

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Ries Farms
Posted 9/4/2011 14:55 (#1945948 - in reply to #1945928)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


SE MN & NE IA
Never had a wrench on the engine for any engine work. Lots of wrenchs used to keepfixing the tranny and pto. Regular maintence as per the operators manual. How can you make a tractor that has a pto that can't be used in reverse? All we ever used the pto for was stalk chopping with a 20' stalk chopper.....and very little backing up with one of those. Still had the tranny/pto problems. Was trying to point out to the guy looking at a 2594 for a grain cart this may not be the best tractor....he will likely be using reverse a lot with a grain cart.

Just trying to help out with my experieces.....didn't know my maintenence or operators skill was gonna be judged.
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casemanwcoh
Posted 9/4/2011 15:28 (#1945994 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



Pretty sure you can use the PTO in reverse, just can't use it for stationary PTO work and leave the powershift in reverse.
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6thGeneration
Posted 9/4/2011 15:34 (#1946002 - in reply to #1945948)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



Wisconsin

Ries Farms - 9/4/2011 13:55 Never had a wrench on the engine for any engine work. Lots of wrenchs used to keepfixing the tranny and pto. Regular maintence as per the operators manual. How can you make a tractor that has a pto that can't be used in reverse? All we ever used the pto for was stalk chopping with a 20' stalk chopper.....and very little backing up with one of those. Still had the tranny/pto problems. Was trying to point out to the guy looking at a 2594 for a grain cart this may not be the best tractor....he will likely be using reverse a lot with a grain cart. Just trying to help out with my experieces.....didn't know my maintenence or operators skill was gonna be judged.

 

Was just looking for an unclear reply to be explained.  Thanks.  FWIW, most on here are likely a better mechanic than I am.

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MeanGreen
Posted 9/4/2011 15:48 (#1946022 - in reply to #1945994)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


S.E. Michigan
Put 4400 hrs on one - mostly PTO work. (planter/sprayer) Like Caseman said can back up - just take out of reverse for stationary work.
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earp
Posted 9/4/2011 19:29 (#1946322 - in reply to #1945829)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



Manila, Ar
another tractor.............or two mules.............either would be better IMO
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Larry in AB
Posted 9/4/2011 20:12 (#1946407 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


Alberta, Canada
Old Case's as said are cheap hp, decent cab but as for the trans so much depends on the operator or the hired hands. Old Case mechanic told me once that they have weak spots but if operated carefully and not abused they can go a long long time between splitting them apart. Nice to know the history of the tractor and what it was used for.
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Farms With CASE
Posted 9/5/2011 00:34 (#1946882 - in reply to #1945948)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana
Outta curiousity, what kinda pto problems? Clutches or bearings? And running the pto while in reverse will not harm the pto but it will do some other damage.
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Farms With CASE
Posted 9/5/2011 00:35 (#1946885 - in reply to #1945848)
Subject: RE: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana
I would love to buy the whole fence row if the owner would part with them for a decent price!
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okpanhandle
Posted 9/5/2011 09:55 (#1947228 - in reply to #1945801)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



Guymon, OK
Granddad bought a 3594 in '87 and it had constant transmission problems. One time I was riding with Dad when he was driving it back home after being worked on and ten miles outside of town it quit again. Also, I remember the PTO wouldn't stay engaged. When running the shredder we had a big rubber band (made out of an inner tube) to hold the PTO lever in the ON position. It soured Dad and Granddad so bad on CaseIH that when our dealer brought out a new 7140 to demo they never drove it off the farm. Now that I think about it, the first tractor I ever drove was a 2wd 7120 that we were renting because the 3594 was in the shop again. It wasn't too long after that when Granddad traded it for a 4955 that we still have.

Being a kid, though, I thought the tractor was awesome. The cab seemed way ahead of the SoundGard. I took many naps behind the seat.
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Farms With CASE
Posted 9/5/2011 16:54 (#1947713 - in reply to #1947228)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for



North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana
The pto lever problem is such an easy fix you will feel silly for using a rubberband. Only need to adjust a nut to hold hyd. pressure high enough to keep it engaged.
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croptecsolutions
Posted 9/5/2011 19:16 (#1947886 - in reply to #1947713)
Subject: Re: Case 2594 opinions/what to look for


ok
X2 I'm really starting to like FARMS WITH CASE...LOL
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