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Grunt
Posted 7/25/2011 04:42 (#1878679)
Subject: Pics 212 ft airseeder


New South Wales, Australia
Not sure if anyone else has put a pic on here of this airseeder, but I thought some of you might be interested. Notice the two JD tractors hooked up???


### SORRY ABOUT THAT A WHILE SINCE I'VE PUT PICS UP ON HERE ####

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sixmill
Posted 7/25/2011 04:44 (#1878680 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: 212 ft airseeder


Queensland Australia
No, i didn't notice anything.
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Cane Munga
Posted 7/25/2011 05:24 (#1878682 - in reply to #1878680)
Subject: Re: 212 ft airseeder


Chatsworth Island,NSW,Australia
Now thats a planter.Where is it at?
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mike treweeke
Posted 7/25/2011 05:38 (#1878683 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: 212 ft airseeder



Nth New South Wales Australia
About 80km east of me or 100km west of Moree. Bill Zell's farming operation.
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loran
Posted 7/25/2011 06:39 (#1878691 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


West Union, IOWA FLOLO Farm 52175
Now in a few yrs you can say....."You seen it here first" when Deere owns up to inventing the Quad trak.....


*denotes sarcasm*
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richard
Posted 7/25/2011 07:26 (#1878712 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Youtube link to same planter


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L1pA0q71CQ
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DREWSDAD
Posted 7/25/2011 07:32 (#1878718 - in reply to #1878683)
Subject: Re: 212 ft airseeder


is he the guy that farms 500,000 acres???

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Matt NCOK
Posted 7/25/2011 07:38 (#1878725 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: RE: Pics 212 ft airseeder



I've got to ask, if it takes to carts and two tractors, why not have two seperate rigs?     Or was it a let's do it to say we did it type of thing?



Edited by Matt NCOK 7/25/2011 17:35
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iseedit
Posted 7/25/2011 07:41 (#1878729 - in reply to #1878725)
Subject: RE: Linked tractors ?



central - east central Minnesota -

Matt NCOK - 7/25/2011 06:38

I've got to ask, if it takes to carts and two tractors, why not have to seperate rigs?     Or was a let's do it to say we did it type of thing?


Yes, that's what I was thinking . . . .  Remote controled?

Any chance someone has pic's of the linked tractors?
How fast was it planting ?

Thanks for sharing, that is wide !

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richard
Posted 7/25/2011 07:44 (#1878733 - in reply to #1878729)
Subject: RE: Linked tractors ?


One of the biggest issues for farming where those guys farm is getting staff. Going round the clock you're potentially talking about more than 1000Ha (2500acres) a day with two drivers. Not bad.
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Brandon SWIA
Posted 7/25/2011 08:04 (#1878750 - in reply to #1878718)
Subject: Re: 212 ft airseeder


Looks like closer to 50,000 on a quick google search.

Brandon
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GinNB
Posted 7/25/2011 08:43 (#1878788 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: RE: Pics 212 ft airseeder



Linked controls with one driver or two drivers and the tractors do separate jobs?  I see a guidance dome on the first tractor but not the second.  I'd expect the first one to do the guidance and the second one to run the seeder if there are two drivers.  The only major benefit to one planter, two tractors, and two drivers I can see over two planters is that you just need one skilled person running the rig with just about anybody in the first tractor doing the turning at the end.  They must be some hard up for help if they run like that.  If something breaks, then you've got 212 feet of nothing happening.  Two or three smaller rigs would have 1/2 or 2/3 of the whole capacity still running if one broke.

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Minor Family Farms
Posted 7/25/2011 08:53 (#1878802 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


Kingston, Ohio
How did he get around that tree in the background? :)
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cropsta
Posted 7/25/2011 09:28 (#1878835 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


Nagambie
Several years ago, the Zells tandem hitched 2 60' air seeders together (flexi coil I think from memory) and towed them behind a 600 hp Baldwin running tripples.
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Gerard
Posted 7/25/2011 09:35 (#1878845 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: One driver



Woodham, Ontario
Looks like there is only a driver in the front tractor. I would assume it just articuates in between the tractors, but maybe the back one just follows the front tractor?
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greenbine
Posted 7/25/2011 11:18 (#1878964 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: RE: Pics 212 ft airseeder


rtk reciever on the seeder?
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country boy
Posted 7/25/2011 12:29 (#1879040 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


North Dakota
we need an aerial shot to see the whole thing.
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plowboy
Posted 7/25/2011 13:03 (#1879087 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder



Brazilton KS
Lol....when we had the one Challenger all stripped down doing the transmission I was thinking and talking about how it really wouldn't be too difficult to set a pair up like that. Everything is cable controlled from the cab anyway. The tractors have a lot more advanced setup then a twin engine pan does, and they've been making those work since the 50s at least.
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WillB
Posted 7/25/2011 13:57 (#1879143 - in reply to #1879087)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


Ontario Canada
So, not too difficult to do with one driver??
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JohnW
Posted 7/25/2011 17:16 (#1879337 - in reply to #1879143)
Subject: Tandem Cats


NW Washington
Here is how Caterpillar rigged up two D-9's. They are now at the Caterpillar museum in Brooks Oregon.




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mike treweeke
Posted 7/25/2011 17:43 (#1879365 - in reply to #1878725)
Subject: They have other units....



Nth New South Wales Australia

They have several other planting units, this one is at home base as their farming operation is spread both north and west of where this pic was taken. Very good farmers and would be doing it for a good reason. There are quite a few 120ft rigs now working up here and when they first appeared 6-7 years ago people then said how big can they go?

I hear Banana planters(based in central QLD)reckon they can/will go to 300ft, not so hard with the design as modular construction allows it to happen. Up till now limiting factors have been air cart capacity to blow product far enough to enough outlets hence two carts and the hydraulic capacity needed to facilitate this hence two tractors. He already has had the t's for some time, just an effecient way to use them while getting the rig sorted out.

In our soils 500hp will handle 120ft, its a load but possible, even with the one tractor working hard it is cheaper than running two 60 ft units.

Mike.

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Matt NCOK
Posted 7/25/2011 21:16 (#1879677 - in reply to #1879365)
Subject: RE: They have other units....



Has the field size always been this large in your area?  Or were farmers able to put these large tracts togather as smaller farmers moved of the farm?

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mike treweeke
Posted 7/25/2011 21:26 (#1879693 - in reply to #1879677)
Subject: RE: They have other units....



Nth New South Wales Australia

What is differant here is that the vast majority of farmland is farmed by the owner and where this operation is situated the average farm size would be 10,000 acres plus, where I am 15,000 acres plus. I am only a medium sized operator and we crop 12,000 acres and run stock on 45,000 acres.

I'm not a BTO for around here, the guys in the pics are but they own their ground and have added to it over the years.

Mike.

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Detroit
Posted 7/25/2011 21:38 (#1879714 - in reply to #1879087)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


Crawfordsville, Arkansas
plowboy - 7/25/2011 12:03

Lol....when we had the one Challenger all stripped down doing the transmission I was thinking and talking about how it really wouldn't be too difficult to set a pair up like that. Everything is cable controlled from the cab anyway. The tractors have a lot more advanced setup then a twin engine pan does, and they've been making those work since the 50s at least.


The last double header that I know of was a 4960 in front and a cabless 4840 in the back pulling a double 14 yard pan setup. He moved dirt for us years ago and had moved from way up in north east AR to us. He was driving the double header pulling double pans and on the rear of the back pan he had his pickup hitched up. On the back of the pickup he was pulling his fuel wagon and hooked to that was his laser mast. Literally looked like a train coming down the road.

The frame for his 4840 front hitch setup was at Bennetts yard a few years ago.. Don't know if its still there or not.
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Brown
Posted 7/25/2011 22:04 (#1879787 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: RE: Pics 212 ft airseeder


SE Iowa

Talked with a Deere VP last year, he said they were working on a "master" and "slave" system where one guy would run two tractors. This must be what he meant.
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Five Lock Boll
Posted 7/25/2011 22:19 (#1879824 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


Northeast Louisiana
The master and slave concept is common on trains. My cousin drive a locomotive and was telling me when they have multiple engines they all do what he does in the lead engine, and it's all wireless. He said it's even possible in certain situations (hills, tunnels, etc.) that the engine on the rear of the train can be out of contact for several minutes at a time.
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JK SCLA
Posted 7/26/2011 20:23 (#1881126 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: Re: Pics 212 ft airseeder


Heck I just like the redneck light arrangement on the roof. Good for shining hogs or deer at nite.
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CaseIHKix
Posted 10/5/2011 21:15 (#1992154 - in reply to #1878679)
Subject: RE: Pics 212 ft airseeder


just hook an ih 7240 to it she will pull it
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6200man
Posted 4/4/2020 06:34 (#8162863 - in reply to #1879693)
Subject: RE: They have other units....


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Why don't they remove the trees?
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iseedit
Posted 4/4/2020 09:02 (#8163235 - in reply to #8162863)
Subject: RE: They have other units....



central - east central Minnesota -

6200man - 4/4/2020 06:34 . Why don't they remove the trees? . 

Over there, there are ordinances protecting the trees . . . . trees are very sacrist in that area/climate/zone. Seems odd, but I believe that's the reasoning, when asked about before on AgTalk.

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