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TP from Central PA
Posted 7/5/2011 18:17 (#1849904)
Subject: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


Currently run a JD 7200 finger and are pleased with its preformance. However, looking to jump from a 6 row to a 12 row for a variety of reasons next year. Would be more than happy to stay with a finger pickup, but finding larger planters with them is harder to do. We don't know very much about the Vac's and are leary. We plant corn, soybeans, and snap beans. What is required to setup a vac for snaps? Also, what are the hydraulic requirements from the tractor? We are looking for a wing fold with liquid fert and would prefer to plant with a JD 7400 2wd in fairly flat ground. Is it enough tractor? I am sure I will have more questions as I think of them, but that is a start for now.
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earp
Posted 7/5/2011 18:31 (#1849918 - in reply to #1849904)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?



Manila, Ar
vac is the only way to go.............alot more accurate, and the 7400 should handle the hydralic of a vac planter
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Red/Green
Posted 7/5/2011 18:54 (#1849939 - in reply to #1849918)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


Elizabethtown,KY
You will probably need snap on duals if it doesn't have axle duals, a set of standard corn disks, and soybean disks, I'm sure they make one for the larger beans as well. I've run nothing but Deere vacs since '92 and wouldn't own anything else.
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deereman05
Posted 7/5/2011 19:18 (#1849968 - in reply to #1849904)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


EC NE
I would get a vacuum and put e sets on
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marlinpain
Posted 7/5/2011 19:26 (#1849975 - in reply to #1849904)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


45 miles south spingfield il.
Went to vac planter last year, always liked fingerpickup. Vac will space corn and beans a lot better(don't know about veggies). I have a hydralic pump on pto so far it works well and I wont change till I need to
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NEILFarmer
Posted 7/5/2011 19:57 (#1850005 - in reply to #1849904)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


Morris, IL
Make sure you get a 1992 or newer so you can put esets in them. Esets will plant as good or better than a finger pickup in my opinion. We planted with a 7200 12 row with full liquid with an IH 1066 and it worked fine, even in our hills. We had duals on our 1066 and it was turned up to about 150 but you could hardly tell it was back there.

Edited by NEILFarmer 7/5/2011 20:00
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TP from Central PA
Posted 7/5/2011 20:12 (#1850014 - in reply to #1849904)
Subject: More random thoughts


We got precision meters on the 6 row and they do a great job. I like the finger because of the simplicity and I think the reliabilty follows.................Can we expect the same from a Vac..............I guess what I am getting at is where are the problem areas? Also, incase the need would call for an older tractor on it, what are the hydraulic requirements?
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Virginia Veg.
Posted 7/5/2011 20:30 (#1850040 - in reply to #1849904)
Subject: RE: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?



Eastern VA. No such thing as too many Magnums.
If someone gave me a finger pickup, I'd trade it for a vac. If for no other reason, just for maintenance. You rarely need to do anything to it. No backing plates, no belts, not much to wear out. We have 4 vac planters and vegetables is our primary business. Esets were a noticeable improvement for the Deere vac in our experience. We were running promax 40s since 1996 in the sweet corn, and the Eset blows it away. I only wish that Eset disks were 40 hole. 30 hole makes it awkward to get the desired population sometimes. I think you will have all the planter that the 7400 wants behind it. Corn looks very decent in our neighborhood. It was a rough start though. Here's a pic from this morning. This was planted 34,000 in April with Deere vac with Esets.



(VirginiaCorn5July2011.jpg)



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redoak
Posted 7/5/2011 21:13 (#1850104 - in reply to #1850040)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


sw ontario
-we run 7200 vac. 8 rw. wide (300 gal. liquid fert.)with a 6210 mfd --ground is flat and it pulls easy--other than its open station I like it better than 7810 on it..as far as vac to finger,,if both are in good shape don't think it matters much...maybe better spacing but if 1/3 field floods out,ect. does a few seeds and spacing matter the most?
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JBENTON82
Posted 7/5/2011 21:16 (#1850107 - in reply to #1850040)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


The vacum planters will definitley give you better accuarcy. Have you ever looked at the Case IH 1200 Series Early Riser Planters? They have the largest diameter corn seed disk in the industry. 48 cells vs 30 holes or 12 fingers. This allow's the disk to turn slower at faster field speeds and still get better seed accuarcy.
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cowhater
Posted 7/5/2011 22:08 (#1850228 - in reply to #1850107)
Subject: Re: regarding seed disk diameter...


DE
I know that a larger diameter disk with more holes will turn slower (fewer rpms) to get same population as a smaller diameter disk. But isn't the actual travel speed of the edge of the seed disk where seed is picked up the same? Doesn't the seed pass by the double eliminator at the same speed in feet per minute? Makes me wonder if it isn't a sales marketing thing. Convince me otherwise
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JBENTON82
Posted 7/5/2011 23:19 (#1850450 - in reply to #1850228)
Subject: Re: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


Revolutions RPMS are different from peripheral rim speed; also called SFM or Surface Feet Per Minute. How fast does a seed disk go at the rim? If the bigger disk were turning at the same RPM as a smaller one, it would have greater SFM and go faster at the surface (edge). Where the seed is picked up. To figure the SFM you would •Measure the diameter in inches and divide it by twelve to find the diameter in feet.
•Then multiply it by 3.14 to get the circumference in feet.
•Finally, multiply it by the R.P.M. to get S.F.M.
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zipper
Posted 7/6/2011 06:54 (#1850696 - in reply to #1850014)
Subject: RE: More random thoughts


no first hand experience, but heard they art not that good at planting veg beans, guy could only go very slow to plant them,. I would verify the snap beans planting, just hear say, dont know if true.
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dvswia
Posted 7/6/2011 07:35 (#1850739 - in reply to #1850040)
Subject: RE: JD 7200 Planter......Finger or Vac???? Reasons?


sw corner ia.
had a vac. I will never get another one. love the pp finger pu's which require no wasted hp running a pos hyd motor driven fan which can plug with trash. stand always comes out like this in the last four years I have run it.



(corn rows 09 2.jpg)



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Gerald J.
Posted 7/6/2011 10:55 (#1850964 - in reply to #1850739)
Subject: I saw lots of skips in the outside rows when a neighbor stated new with a Vac planter. NT



Gerald J.
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