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flyinfarmer
Posted 5/6/2011 22:00 (#1763835)
Subject: Planter row units per tractor HP



NE Iowa
Our setup has got to be on the upper end for # of row units per tractor Hp - 16 row planter behind 125Hp 4430 = .128. Lots of guys around here pulling 12 rows with at least 150Hp (0.08 ratio). A few huge guys pulling 48row with 450Hp (.107).

Our planter is a 12r 7100 bar with pivots each moved out 1 row (putting 8 rows on center section) and each wing lengthened by 1 row. Is a little challenging in transport, as the wings on 7100s don't go true vertical - planter is pretty wide going down the road. But, once in the field, it is a dream to operate.

Same tractor will be pulling a 15" 16row 7000 planter in a few weeks planting beans.





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z28_zeppelin
Posted 5/6/2011 22:20 (#1763862 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP


i bet that is rough driving against those rows.

good setup.
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versatileman
Posted 5/6/2011 22:20 (#1763865 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP


Roseau, MN
I pull a 24r30" with a 145hp 8630 ford set at 145hp. I don't have hills so I can pull it at 6mph at about 3/4 throttle no problem, the only time it gets harry is if I get caught in a wet spot. Kind of funny how much you can pull when you are not trying to run a bunch of hydraulic motors. I'm not going to argue that a new planter isn't better, but what ever happened to KISS.



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Thud
Posted 5/6/2011 22:28 (#1763877 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP


Essex Country Ontario
We pull a kinze 2600 12x30 , dry and liquid fert , NO-till with 110hp. Get along fine, but 20hp more would be nice . I'm curious as to why you don't run duals on the tractor, would really aid in stability when transporting.
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Kooiker
Posted 5/6/2011 22:33 (#1763887 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP



We currently pull a 15 row 20" White with a 2-155 White, handles it like there's nothing back there.

 

We've pulled the same planter in the past no tilling beans with a 2-105 White, it handled it ok but you definitely knew it was back there.

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MMiller
Posted 5/6/2011 22:34 (#1763891 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP


SW Iowa
We used to pull a 30' Crustbuster with 44 rows and 1 3/4 bushel per foot with a 130 hp 8030 Allis, but it didn't want any more. If it was wet going, it objected.
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loran
Posted 5/6/2011 22:38 (#1763901 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP



West Union, IOWA FLOLO Farm 52175

but with that Chrome stack.....you've got an unfair advantage.


I was pulling come Hills today...the 200hp on a 12 row was looking for a few more.....*GRIN*

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Kooiker
Posted 5/6/2011 22:39 (#1763903 - in reply to #1763901)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP



Better get a bigger one,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A bigger chromey that is  :-)

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Pofarmer
Posted 5/6/2011 22:44 (#1763921 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP



I dunno. We pull a 16 row 30" with a 7120 magnum 2wd. Around 165 hp? Handles it fine untill it gets soft.
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kinzepower
Posted 5/6/2011 22:54 (#1763940 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP


SW Ontario
I have a neighbour who used to pull a 8 row 30 with dry fertilizer with a 2130...67hp.
Having the extra openers and weight makes a huge difference.
I have a 16r30 1770 with dry fertilizer and extensions set up for no till...holds 8000lbs of dry.
Used to pull it with a 7810 with ease.
Seems guys run with a lot more power on their planter than I did, but wet holes will do that I guess.

The 7810 with MFWD was barley heavy enough for road travel.
Different strokes...
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Newguy
Posted 5/6/2011 23:04 (#1763966 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP



Renville Minnesota

215 hp (pto) pulling 24-30 Case 1200, hydraulic drive.     800 gallons of 10-34-0........ 70 bushel central fill.   

So I guess I loose at .11     

Running about .3 to .4 gallons of fuel used per acre (dependent on field terrain and moisture).

 



Edited by Newguy 5/7/2011 09:46
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Gregor
Posted 5/6/2011 23:05 (#1763967 - in reply to #1763940)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP


Prague, NE
I got a MT535B challenger MFWA that has about 115hp. I pull a 8 row 30" 6100 planter and a 20'drill with 13 JD 7000 units on it. I got the CVT at 1700 RPM and 5.2 MPH. In the hill and clay, she doesn't complain. Dad use to plant with a 180 Allis gas tractor (somewhere around 80 HP) and had a 8 row 30" International 58 planter with runners. It'd burn the gas for sure. But gas was cheap back then.
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twraska
Posted 5/7/2011 00:10 (#1764078 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP


Wallis, TX
Son bought a Farmall H that the original owner never took the planter off. 4R wide with a sprayer in tow, pto pump as well. The farmer used this rig until he retired in the late 70's. An H is about 28 hp so the ratio is .14?
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cwjones
Posted 5/7/2011 07:33 (#1764249 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP


Southern Indiana
I know a guy that pulls a 12/23 Kinze 3600 with a mx120. That would be .191 and thats engine hp not pto. He told me that he did this and I couldn't believe him until I saw it. I would hate to get in a pinch with this thing. btw we have hills too but not mountains.
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GangGreen
Posted 5/7/2011 08:11 (#1764301 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP



Eastern Iowa
I have been told many different things over the years. Currently pulling a 6 row with a 130 hp 2wd, so I have plenty of power, but not always, surprisingly. This farm is very hilly and some tough soils.

I have told my dealer I would like to go to a 12 row next year and upgrade the tractor with it. He has a 7520 IVT MFWD he said would work, but at 125 hp, I sorta doubt it.
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Pofarmer
Posted 5/7/2011 09:03 (#1764360 - in reply to #1763967)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP



Pulled an 8 row 30" 58 for quite a few years with an IH 460. Pretty efficient little rig, but, the tractor had about what it wanted in soft worked ground.
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L8Bloomer
Posted 5/7/2011 11:37 (#1764513 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP


SW Ohio
I pull 15 row bean planter (1780) with 4010. It is turboed with duals and weights. Maybe 105 HP? That is 7 HP per row. Corn at 8 rows would be 13. Land rolls a bit, it's the wet places that slow me down.

DIVIDE HP BY ROWS.
125 / 12 = 10.4 HP per row
125 / 16 = 7.8125 HP per row
150 / 12 = 12.5 HP per row
450 / 48 = 9.375

You are on the low end of those examples for beans but still better powered than I am.

Good Luck,
Dave
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JoeR
Posted 5/7/2011 15:34 (#1764649 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP



NW Iowa
Pulled a 12-30" 6100 White with a 4430 (140 hp maybe?) with and 11 row splitter for a couple years. You could definately tell that was back there.
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Gro-Mor Farms
Posted 5/7/2011 22:06 (#1765016 - in reply to #1763940)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP


Pulled an IH 56 6-30 with a 50 John Deere (less than 40 hp). Pulled it in fifth gear @ 7mph. Once we planted 120 acres of beans in one day 5 am to 12pm moving short hops between 3 farms.
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gil
Posted 5/8/2011 00:34 (#1765254 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: RE: Planter row units per tractor HP


Back in the 70's, I pulled a 8-36" Cyclo 400 (with a PTO pump) with a 53hp tractor.

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6thGeneration
Posted 5/8/2011 17:23 (#1766072 - in reply to #1763835)
Subject: Re: Planter row units per tractor HP



Wisconsin
High end here. Tractor is hot ford 9700 roughly 150-160hp. 6 rows with 260 gallons fert on planter and 400 on saddles.
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