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|Does any one plant soybeans with there 7000 John Deer planter? I'm thinking of getting soybean cups for my planter and useing it to plant. I want to go to 30 inch rows this year Good or bad idea? I was just going to run over the corn stubble with a turbo till once then plant it.|
|get the kinze brush meters.|
|Or the radial meters, cups aren't accurate|
|Cups are just a controlled spill, you have been given good advice. |
|There is an echo in here. You can plant beans with the cups, but it you don't have them they aren't worth buying. You will spill ample beans and get a stand varying in density. But in the process you will probably plant 15 or 20% extra of those $60 a sack seed beans that you wouldn't plant with the Kinze or Deere brush meters that actually COUNT the seed. |
The bottom of the planter will do well with either way of measuring seed, last couple times I planted beans, I did it notill with a flat coulter up front to cut the corn stover and Dawn trash whippers to spread them apart using my JD 7000 planter. Worked fine and put down the planned count of beans.
|You can easily plant soybeans with the 7000 planter and the seed cup, you just need to test the drop to get your sprocket setting right, for your pop. desired. |
Do a practice drop in the yard on gravel, and do your counting.
There is no singulation with the brush meter either, so they are both a controlled drop.
|How do you know how many seeds you should per foot you for the pop you want. I want to plant it at about 145000 to 150000 per acre in the manual it only goes up to 123000. Can someone tell me what spockets I should be using.|
|If you should find some used JD cups, and I would think someone would be ready to give theirs away. (ours sat in the shed for years before we burnt them), Check for wear-- the plastic "bearing" will wear, causing them to wobble and underplant.|
|For 30" rows, 150,000 seeds per acre, you should be dropping 8.6 seeds per foot of row. I hope that helps.|
NW Barton County Missouri
|I dont know where you farm, but I find here that having around the 120g pop yields just has much as the 140g and higher..jmo. We plant with a 7000 but is a plate planter, so not the same set up as you.|
|Our experience was the book was way off and the bean cups over planted terribly. IIRC on 30 inch rows, 17 ft 5 inches is 1/1000 of an acre, so 140 divided by 17 is 8.2 seeds per foot. We got rid of our bean cups several years ago, course ours were wore out. In my opinion, beg borrow or steal Kinze or JD meters. They will pay for themselves in one year. Good luck!|
|I plant notill beans with a 7000. I have Martin whippers up front then a jd notill coulter. It makes a nice black strip and the coulter lightly tills the seed bed prior to the opener. I use Kinzie bean meters and have a pile of the JD bean cups setting in the shed that I have never used. I drop 140 - 160K depending on the soil type and variety. The last 7 years we have a 60 bu average. Last year was 65 avg. Sometimes I will even put some fert in the furrow depending on the situation but with that you need to use caution.|
|I don't know about the JD meters, but the Kinze meters with a 60-cell disc will plant 5-times the corn population. 30,000 |
I don't know about the JD meters, but the Kinze meters with the the 60-cell discs will plant 5-times the corn population. 30,000 corn=150,000 beans.
|yep with my kinze brush meters take corn pop. times five. They work great and very accurate.|
|I spilled lots of beans out of those cups. when I changed to the kinzie I had brush meters and liked them. One thing about the cups,,watch to see all boxes plant about the same,,,one box gets emptier faster. You can shim those cups up by cutting washer type discs out of plastic milk jugs and adding them to the side of the cup to make it run that much closer,,,tighter. Might take 2 or 3 or more if its really sloppy. |
Seed size is the hardest thing,,,if you change numbers or even seed lots the seed changes size and your back to calibrating again. (with cups)
I used to do some lower pop trials on beans and never saw any yield hit with much lower pops than MOST people plant. I always heard if you get 4 or 5 good plants per foot in 30's you have plenty to give all the yield your gonna get,,,the rest is basicly wasted seed and expense.
I had half rate sprockets and doubled back for 15's as best I could,,,thought it saved at least one shot of roundup because of earlier shading,,fed better into head etc. If you have a real wet good year they will really yield well. It was a poor mans 15's planter but it worked,,,always wished I built a 15" but never got that far.
But all in all the 7000 was a good bean planter,,,it just was too short for my acres. All dryland advice above,,irrigated beans maybe not,,,
Edited by don@nebr 5/2/2011 11:34
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