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Jeffery
Posted 4/20/2011 16:14 (#1735205)
Subject: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?


Got everything installed on a 2600 equipped 9770 combine to autosteer cutting beans, wondering what it costs or what it takes to convert my 893 corn head to the row feeling sensors to get autosteer to work with it as well?
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Dennis SEND
Posted 4/20/2011 16:21 (#1735212 - in reply to #1735205)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?



Are you running SF1 or SF2 cost for rowsense activation on SF1 is 5,350 and SF2 is 2,695 plus the sensors and wiring harness are about 12-1500 depending on what you all need. Dennis SEND
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Jeffery
Posted 4/20/2011 16:25 (#1735217 - in reply to #1735212)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?


SF1.

I just thought the sensors would be all that I'd need, sounds pricey.
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Manteno Mark
Posted 4/20/2011 16:31 (#1735226 - in reply to #1735205)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?


Manteno Illinois 50 miles south of Chicago
If it's a 608 or 612 corn head the harnesses is there. Correct me if im wrong but you have to run sf2. That being said,it's worth it. Ask this on the precision page and I will bet the jd AMS guy will tell you exactly.
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JohnDeereAMS
Posted 4/20/2011 17:29 (#1735266 - in reply to #1735205)
Subject: RE: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?


NE Illinois
It takes an activation for the 2600, as well as the mechanical feelers to install on the corn head. You can install RowSense whether you have SF1 or SF2 AutoTrac, but like Dennis said, more expensive if you are running SF1. SF1 RowSense: $5350, SF2 RowSense $2695 for a 2600. If you plan on eventually going to SF2, you would be wise to do that before you add the RowSense functionality. In addition to the activation, you need to purchase the feelers to mount on the corn head- $930. The wiring and brackets are already in place on the 600 series corn heads but not the 900 series. Therefore, you would also need to purchase a retrofit kit. This kit includes the lower portion of two snoots. You remove two of your existing snoots and mount the two new ones which have the brackets in place. This retrofit kit costs $605. The nice thing about this kit is that you have two spare snoots in case anything would happen in the field- has come in handy for some of my customers more than once.

Edited by JohnDeereAMS 4/20/2011 20:13
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kmk
Posted 4/20/2011 18:16 (#1735317 - in reply to #1735217)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?



West Central IL
You can run SF1 on Row Sense but like they said the activation is $5000+. I have my 9570 set up on SF1 to cut beans but since I only use JD guidance in the combine I'm having a hard time justifying the activation for Row Sense just to do corn and not use it on anything else.
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steveMIfarmer
Posted 4/20/2011 18:16 (#1735318 - in reply to #1735226)
Subject: Re: Manteno Mark



West Michigan
Manteno Mark - 4/20/2011 16:31

That being said,it's worth it.


What you say makes it worth it?? I had a demo for a day last year and struggled to see the "worth it" factor. Do you think it was doing a better job and bringing in more grain? Or are you just saying it is worth it from a ease of operation stand point.

Looking more opinions from others who have run them longer

TIA

Edited by steveMIfarmer 4/20/2011 18:17
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rab1964
Posted 4/20/2011 18:18 (#1735320 - in reply to #1735318)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?



If you want to run 160-200 acres a day with a 8 row corn head it's worth every penny to me.
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collegeboy
Posted 4/20/2011 18:31 (#1735341 - in reply to #1735266)
Subject: RE: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?



Slicker than a Yes album.
I will add that, while your activation needs to match the level of accuracy of your receiver, you do NOT need to buy a SF2 subscription to make it work. It will run on SF1 just as well. The feelers effectively give RTK accuracy, however with a platform or draper, you might benefit a bit with higher accuracy. We have done plenty of beans on SF1 and it usually does a pretty good job.
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biggrntractor
Posted 4/20/2011 18:47 (#1735373 - in reply to #1735341)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?


Northern Illinois
I thought it was BS because if you have ran a 12 row head it will take you down the row or where it wants. Got talked into it by a fast talking used car salesman from Dwight. We installed it on our Drago and it works great. Previously used Autosteer on SF2 and would use 2" "bumps" to stay on the row. Works good in down corn. Probably shouldn't do it but it is nice to get up and strech your legs and stand up a little bit.
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highline
Posted 4/20/2011 19:47 (#1735435 - in reply to #1735373)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?



I think others have pretty well covered the costs. We run it with our 12row and will agree that the combine would almost run itself down the row without it. Salesman said this is coming now for JD choppers too, which we're excited about. We have an 8 row head for a couple of custom jobs that don't use autotrac, but do pretty good job of straight row planting. This will update every couple of seconds to center the line and keep it in the middle of the row. We are looking forward to this setup on our chopper in earlage, especially since we are always "dumping on the go"- a lot to pay attention to.

As far as the combine, it was one of those things that we had the machine and head, for a little bit more we could take care of the sidehill planter slide. It really shined in down corn. Couldn't tell where the corn row was when it was laying flat, but if you could get in the right spot, get the snout under the row, it would lift them up enough that feelers worked excellent.

After running in down corn, I'm glad we did it. Looking forward to non-autotrac rows with the SPFH this year, so we're carrying the investment over and this really was a relief when all we had to buy was another set of feelers (or move the ones we had...nah)
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smokesgasman
Posted 4/20/2011 20:09 (#1735481 - in reply to #1735205)
Subject: RE: headsite.com


so.wisconsin

they have a system called true site row guidance 5450$ for the kit plug n play no actavation needed

smoke

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steveMIfarmer
Posted 4/20/2011 21:32 (#1735649 - in reply to #1735320)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?



West Michigan
So your saying steering all day is to much?? Not sure what you mean by if you want to do 160-200 you need it. We harvest those kind of acres (140-150 we have small fields) and run an 8 row. I very rarely have to even steer. Do you have duals? Maybe that makes it track better than others?? I tried about every setting combination I could and wouldn't follow any kind of curve going 6+ mph anyway. I guess I am still confused
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farmking
Posted 4/20/2011 23:44 (#1736060 - in reply to #1735317)
Subject: Re: Corn Head Autosteer on a 9770?



Arthur Nd
Doesn't JD sell the Reichhardt tac sensor? Here is the link to it, and i think it is a lot better for the price.

http://www.reichhardt.com/en/products/automatic-steering-system/ste...
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