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Iowa | I for one think they are great tractors, and run like cougar's, but I never see any talk of them on here.. What are your opinions on theses little beast?
I'm actually thinking about getting a new 9345, but I'm afraid it might have to much power for my little field cultivator.. I'd hate for it to pull it apart. |
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E.Central MN | I thought it was rather interesting when a friend of ours said his son (a missionary) was asking about the value of Belarus tractors in the Midwest. Apparently they were
much cheaper here so they wanted to buy some and ship them back over there. Sounded like a good idea. |
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Harristown, IL | Funny you should ask. I just bought a new blue tractor and some one sent me this video. Maybe you should take a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkOqwZMdV0&playnext=1&list=PL14457B...
Of course it reminds me of a 110# beauty queen taking on a 500# UGLY sumo wrestler. |
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south east mn | when my dad used to farm we had a 1025 and then traded for the 9345. good tractor but it seemed to be a bit on the doggy side. pulled a 15 ft cultivator with it as well as a disk. |
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Henderson, Minnesota | I bought a new 925 in 1994, been pretty well satisfied,VERY economical to run, service has been decent. Some parts are getting a little slow to find. |
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Eastern Ont | Have a 5190 95hp 4wd 1994 version Same as a 925
Been a good tractor 4600 hours on it now nothing major
Starts and runs well Gears take a little getting used to
Bought it in 98 with 1400 hours on it for 15K
Some of the features
Auto diff lock
Auto 4wd
540/1000 RPM
Downpressure on 3pt hitch
Centrifigal Oil filter No filters to buy
No electronics to F$$k up
Oil Bath air filter
They take a little getting used to but a very strong and dependable work horse
Parts network is just as good as any domestic manufacturer
Belarus still is the largest tractor manufacturer in the world. I think 60 000/year
Pulled our 20 ft cultivator no problem
used it to pull 15 ft NT sunflower drill one year you new it was behind you but it handled it fine
BTW we do have a 2000 5460 65HP we just got from a neighbour for sale 225 origional Hours 4wd and cab
Edited by ayrporte 3/28/2011 17:39
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| I would be concerned about parts. Back in the early '90s quite a few dealers sprung up. Seemed Belarus sold quite a few tractors at first. Since the US dealers closed shop only the real diehards run them now. I don't have a clue where a dealer is now. |
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Eastern Ont | Parts are readily available
Worst case you would have to order them direct from Milwaukee
http://www.belarus.com/parts.htm
They have a good dealer network up
Nice thing most parts fit the same tractors
Same rad from 45hp to 120 hp
Same parts from 900 to 9345 other than some tin work mods
The new soy panels are interchangeable with the older models
Edited by ayrporte 3/28/2011 19:32
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It made a Crop | If your concerned about pulling the field culltivator apart with it. I see two options.
1. use a #2 bolt as your hitch pin. Just buy an ample supply when they are on sale at the Rural King.
2. With the money you are saving on the Belarus. Update the field cultivator/ I see two option here as well/
a. Beef up the current field cultivator.
b. Replace the current field cutivator with one of superior quality to match the Belarus 9345. |
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| I'd rather have something built in the US in the 50's or 60's than a Belarus built in the 90's. The US built machine would be technologically superior. |
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| Dan_wcIN - 3/28/2011 19:00 Replace the current field cutivator with one of superior quality to match the Belarus 9345. Is there supposed to be an * or two after that? |
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Eastern Ont | Kooiker - 3/28/2011 23:44
I'd rather have something built in the US in the 50's or 60's than a Belarus built in the 90's. The US built machine would be technologically superior
* Denotes sarcasm.
The more *'s the more sarcasm..
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Belarus Had Auto diff lock and auto 4wd engage long before the US companies even thought of it
Every tractor company has its own perks
You just got your head out of the sand to see them
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| The 825 Belarus tractors that I'm familiar with had "auto" fwa but I wouldn't exactly call it auto engage. It was more like a limited slip/over running setup. Not sure what the diff lock setup was or if they even have diff lock, those are tractors I'm trying to remove from my memory. There was no sarcasm in my post. |
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| Another thing about the mfwd on the 825's I was around. The front end has an adjustable torque limiter slip clutch built right into the driveline. The Russians knew the front end couldn't stand full engine power applied to it or the front drive would self destruct. Almost every Belarus I ever saw had the front wheels cobbled and reinforced because 5 studs was just not enough to do the job with a loader on. I think the last ones might have had heavier hubs.
When these tractors got in a jam and needed the front wheels working the most, that's when the front end would disengage. Neighbor had a mfwd JD 2940 that worked similarly.
As far as the auto engage feature. That didn't work in reverse. So you could drive into something using mfwd that you couldn't back out of in 2wd. Lock it in 4wd and you were OK but refer to previous paragraph. ;-)
Seriously, IMO for their time the Belarus tractors were an OK tractor for a mechanically capable guy who didn't mind messing with oil leaks and fixing constant little stuff. I always heard the best feature was the engines themselves which started well no matter the temp and were economical on fuel.
This is all kind of moot because to my knowledge, you can't buy a new Belarus in the US today anyway.
Edited by John SD 3/29/2011 18:31
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Jerseyville,IL | The Russian only out weighs the Blue by about double.
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Eastern Ont | John SD - 3/29/2011 18:28
Another thing about the mfwd on the 825's I was around. The front end has an adjustable torque limiter slip clutch built right into the driveline. The Russians knew the front end couldn't stand full engine power applied to it or the front drive would self destruct. Almost every Belarus I ever saw had the front wheels cobbled and reinforced because 5 studs was just not enough to do the job with a loader on. I think the last ones might have had heavier hubs.
When these tractors got in a jam and needed the front wheels working the most, that's when the front end would disengage. Neighbor had a mfwd JD 2940 that worked similarly.
As far as the auto engage feature. That didn't work in reverse. So you could drive into something using mfwd that you couldn't back out of in 2wd. Lock it in 4wd and you were OK but refer to previous paragraph. ;-)
Seriously, IMO for their time the Belarus tractors were an OK tractor for a mechanically capable guy who didn't mind messing with oil leaks and fixing constant little stuff. I always heard the best feature was the engines themselves which started well no matter the temp and were economical on fuel.
This is all kind of moot because to my knowledge, you can't buy a new Belarus in the US today anyway. Yes you can buy a new belarus today They are MTZ still made in the Minsk tractor works plant NEW 98hp FWD cab and air Lists At 40K We had an 825 with over 5000H never crunched a front end Replaced it with a 5190 97hp it currentyly has 4600 h on it They are great on fuel yes the leaks were problems at the start but when fixed right they stopped but at half the money of a blue red or green one they have there place W |
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| Can you buy one in the US? Emissions? I haven't seen a new Belarus in ~ 10 yrs other than on the internet. |
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Eastern Ont | We have a local dealer that is part of the MTZ line from MTW minsk tractor works
http://www.mtzequipment.com/products.html
I believe if you can get them in Canada you could get them in the US but not sure
http://belarus-tractor.com/en/main.aspx?guid=1071
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South Western Ontario, Canada | Nothing that I could spot about emmissions!!!
Curious to see one in person. Can't see one ever replacing any of our tractors. Still has a dual range synchronized tranny! That's on a MTZ 3023 (300HP) |
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South Western Ontario, Canada | ARE YOU SERIOUS???? Erasing the post from MTZ????? Come on moderators! That's just silly! It was great news and all! |
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Toronto, ON | I confirm that Belarus made MTZ tractors are available again in USA starting January 1st 2014.
Specs are posted on www.mtzequipment.com
Currently available models are 77-212 hp, both 4 and 6 cylinders.
Tractors are Tier 3 emissions level, meaning there is no complicated electronics / computers, and no need for "add blue" stuff.
Any questions are welcome. |
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Toronto, ON | Just a short update: The tractors line was expanded to include MTZ-Kirovets K744 model (428 hp),
All tractors are Tier 3 engines (No DEF, no DPF, no computers, no complicated electronics). |
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Lawton MI | Had a used Belarus 420 in early 80's, around 60hp, fwa and air cooled four cyl diesel. If was a hellava tractor.
Purchased new 420 utility, 520 and I believe 925, they were all the biggest POS I've ever seen. Couldn't keep them running for a week. I would rather have a JD 60 or Farmall M than any new Belarus. |
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Toronto, ON | I'm sorry to hear about your experience.
Generally speaking both the 500 and 900 series Belarus were very solid machines, over 50,000 units were sold in USA/Canada.
Many of them are still in service. We know since we still provide parts for them.
At present, we perform complete PDI prior to shipping the tractors to delaers.
In the old days the tractors were provided almost as "kits" to the dealers, who were expected to put 10-20 hours for a proper PDI of the tractors.
Unfortunately, not all dealers did it.
With good dealers, farmers generally had a very positive experience. With bad dealers some farmers got your experience.
If the tractors are stil around, tell the new owners to connect with us for any manuals, service books or brand new original factory parts for those tractors.
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