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495man
Posted 3/4/2011 19:10 (#1650425)
Subject: F-250 460 towing & mpg


Nova Scotia

Anyone tow with a 460 EFI (7.5L) in a 92-97 F-250?

How heavy of a trailer? What MPG empty/loaded

I'm looking at one with a 5-speed OD trans & 4x4.  Don't know the axle ratio yet.

I want to haul a 7,000 lb GVW bumper pull stock trailer (empty about 2500 lb) and possibly a travel trailer that size.

I'm thinking that will work fine and we are talking limited hauling, maybe 1,000 km a year tops.

Also, why the BIG difference in automatic and 5-speed tow ratings in the linked ford chart? 3000 lb difference? Does it make sense a 351 auto F-250 is rated to tow more than a 460 5-speed?  The 5-speed does have the "granny 1st" right?

Auto and 5-speed have nearly identical tow rating in the 99 F-250.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f19/1995-ford-f-series-tow-ratings-brochure-scan-79302/

 

 

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Aaron SEIA
Posted 3/4/2011 19:37 (#1650468 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg


Not sure on the MPG, buit am very interested as I might step back from a Powerstroke to a 460 on my next truck. I do know that my old 5 speed in my stroker (94.5) could start pulling my trailers in 2nd gear, same weights as you are talking. My 97 stroker with an auto doesn't get as good of milage and seems to not have near the power. Next truck will be a 250 or 350 4x4 4 door stick.
AaronSEIA
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hillfarmer
Posted 3/4/2011 19:41 (#1650477 - in reply to #1650468)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg



Read an article on ratings

so many lbs down the road in the desert with standard radiator
In the truck with the 460, it might get too hot with the bigger load
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dairy farmer
Posted 3/4/2011 20:47 (#1650622 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: RE: F-250 460 towing & mpg


South central IL
If you are looking at a 92 to 97. Look consider a power stroke with the turbo. I had a 96 model and it was great to pull with. It would get 17 around town 21 on the highway. Pulling a load of cattle it would still get around 12 . A 460 will struggle to get 10 empty and only around 8 loaded. Good luck no matter what you buy.
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jdfarmer11
Posted 3/4/2011 20:54 (#1650637 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg


northeast, south dakota
We have a 97 f250 with a 460 5 speed, good power in bottom 4, but won't pass a gas station, mileage is poor, 6 mpg loaded not much better without load. the heaviest thing we pull is a nurse trailer that weighs about 10500 pds when loaded and it handles it very good
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mike in sw mn
Posted 3/4/2011 21:16 (#1650696 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg


Walnut Grove MN USA
I had a '91 set up like you are looking at. Like jdfarmer said pass everything but a gas station. 14 mpg on the hwy if you baby it otherwise 8-10 around town. Don't worry about mileage pulling a load, it won't have any. My 5 speed crapped out at 100,000 miles and spendy to replace because a bearing ate out the aluminum housing.
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tbeck
Posted 3/4/2011 21:19 (#1650706 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: RE: comparing between the Powerstroke and 460



Culbertson, MT
Have pulled alongside 3 neighbors F250 4x4's with 460's. All 5 spd/4.10 gearing. Compared to my 94.5 Powerstoke (5spd/4.10 gears), I would put the fuel consumption at least 40% more thru the 460. They run down the road about the same, maybe a bit of an advantage with the Powerstroke on hills. Don't know what to tell you on the difference of tow ratings, all my towing is so far out of limits as to be embarrassing!! To each their own, but I wouldn't trade my Powerstroke on one!
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RICK NCMD
Posted 3/4/2011 21:20 (#1650709 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: RE: F-250 460 towing & mpg



About 6mpg loaded or empty. At 50+/- miles per day driving a 12mpg vehicle will save you over $6000.00 per year.
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Galaxie64
Posted 3/4/2011 21:46 (#1650788 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg


SCWY
We had 2 '92 460's and a '93 7.3L with turbo. All 3 had the ZF5 and were 4wd and were F250's, diesel had 4.10's and I think the 460's had 3.73's. 460's got up to 12-13mpg empty going down the road. Doing ranch work they would drop to 6-9, towing was in that same range. The 7.3L only did a little better, 3-4 better empty on the road. 7Klbs is nothing for any of them you will want trailer brakes and a good controller for it. The ZF5 first gear is a little too high to hop out and feed off the back, you need to put it in 4lo to do that to give you an idea of how low a gear it is.

Clutches like to go out on the ZF5's soon after 100K miles. inside door handles like to weaken and break on the '92-'97s, there can also be cooling issues with them after all these years.
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t-boss
Posted 3/4/2011 23:12 (#1650986 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg



sc ia
You can gain a little power and about 10% in fuel economy by advancing the cam in a 460. They were retarded about 12 degrees from the factory since 1973 if I recall correctly. A crank sprocket from an earlier 429 or 460 makes the correction.
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notillgleaner
Posted 3/4/2011 23:31 (#1651027 - in reply to #1650986)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg



Central Kansas

Hey I did that on my '86. 

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Versatile Farmer
Posted 3/5/2011 08:47 (#1651374 - in reply to #1651027)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg


Hey I've got an '86 F250 4x4 with a 460 also. Did your mileage increase at all? Did it get "crazily" more powerful? Mine's got great power and I've heard that if you put 429 timing gears in it that they'll really get wild. Did yours change noticeably?
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GangGreen
Posted 3/5/2011 09:17 (#1651432 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: RE: F-250 460 towing & mpg



Eastern Iowa
Had a 460 with a 5 speed manual transmission in a 95 F-250 and it was a boss pulling a trailer, 14000 GVW. I didn't consider low gear a granny gear, but the 460 would easily start out in second without a load. It was pretty thirsty though--I think it had almost 50 gallons worth of gas tanks. Had a lot more low end torque getting going than the 2005 V-10 we have now.



Edited by GangGreen 3/5/2011 09:18
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caylerman
Posted 3/5/2011 10:29 (#1651590 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: RE: F-250 460 towing & mpg


NW IA
Had a 97 F250 ext. Cab 4x4 with 460 and auto trans. Got 15 mpg highway and 6 - 8 mpg pulling 8 k lbs on the bumper, I put a class IV hitch under it. I really liked the truck, got rid of it for an F350 six point uh oh, don't own either of the trucks now.
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JohnDeere Man
Posted 3/5/2011 11:09 (#1651670 - in reply to #1651590)
Subject: RE: F-250 460 towing & mpg


Wyoming, Ontario
ive heard the 7.5l is a gas hog, does have power tho. i would strongly recommend looking at a 7.3l powerstroke. We have one now with over 400000 on it and it still pulls over 16000Ilbs with no problem, and she'll still puff out the black smoke, it gets 10-13mpg city driving but we have got up to 18-19mpg driving on the highway.
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495man
Posted 3/5/2011 19:09 (#1652468 - in reply to #1650425)
Subject: Re: F-250 460 towing & mpg


Nova Scotia
Thanks for the replies, sounds likes it's capable if I want to feed it fuel. I'll have to sharpen my pencil on this one.
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