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Young Farmer 09
Posted 1/26/2011 19:15 (#1574517)
Subject: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?


Belzoni, Mississippi
Can anybody tell me about a pioneer 31G71 and Pioneer 1615. I heard that the 31G71 is a good dryland variety. What do ya think? What is the maturity and gene makeup of these corns?


What about Dekalb 67-22, 67-88, and 68-05?
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Zach in Ala.
Posted 1/26/2011 20:13 (#1574675 - in reply to #1574517)
Subject: Re: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?


Athens
Over 'here' a customer of mine did a side-by-side with 68-05 and 1615. The 68-05 beat the 1615 bad, this field averaged 120 bu. and was very dry. The 1615 seemed to yield as high in the swags. But the majority of the field is upland and that is where the 68-05 had a distinct advantage.
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puff33m
Posted 1/26/2011 20:53 (#1574810 - in reply to #1574517)
Subject: RE: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?


N FLA
They promote 31G71 dryland, or they say that it is usually higher yielding than other varieties in low yielding (drought) conditions. That and 33V16 are the Pioneer recommendations for dryland here. V16 is very good dryland, but misses the bar on high yield irrigated. Here, most prefer V16 over G71 dryland.

Pioneer 1615 is two feet taller than everything else. Most dont like that. 116 day

67-88 is great in N FL, S GA. 117 day. So far it acts like the old 69-72, holds up well in high yield and stress. That might be something to look at, old 6972 (119 day). Its very reliable in my opinion, and is great dryland, and probably reasonable price. DK has a conventional version 697 also. Havent seen the other DK numbers.

I am always impressed by Dynagro.

Edited by puff33m 1/26/2011 20:54
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HT67
Posted 1/26/2011 21:11 (#1574859 - in reply to #1574517)
Subject: RE: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?


Virginia
I haven't planted any 1615 but have heard it doesn't handle stress very well. 1184HR is one that works really well for me and I believe it can handle stress.

Do a google search on the Pioneer and Dekalb numbers and you should find lots of info on them.
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razorback81
Posted 1/26/2011 22:55 (#1575168 - in reply to #1574517)
Subject: RE: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?



Paragould, AR
I'm a Pioneer Sales Consultant. 31G71 is our best stress/dryland corn. As a previous poster said, it outyields other hybrids at low yield levels (less than 140). P1615HR is great for moderate to high yield environments, and in yield environments above 200 is very good and hard to beat. Again, as a previous poster stated, in those 120-140 yield environments 31G71 is better. P1615HR is a very tall hybrid, with a high ear placement, but with a few considerations can be managed. First, 1615 has a high flex ear. It doesn't need high plant populations. Stick to around 30,000 or so. Second, don't plant late. Period. Plant in late March or the first week or two of April. This will also keep plant height down.

As for traits, both have Hurculex,RR and LL. That is what the "HR" stands for on P1615HR- Herculex/Roundup, so make sure you get an "HR" product if those are the traits you are looking for.

As for the DeKalb numbers, I can't tell you as much. 68-05 good for low to moderate but not high. 67-88 good hybrid but also tall and very weak stalks. Don't know 67-22 at all.

Good luck.
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jblands
Posted 1/27/2011 11:05 (#1575823 - in reply to #1575168)
Subject: RE: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?


Light, AR (northeast AR)
Pioneer rep. Give me a call. My seed rep. just called me and said that I cannot get the bean seed that I wanted. I have two different numbers that I need to talk to you about. Jeff 476-0037
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westnfarmer
Posted 1/27/2011 18:57 (#1576392 - in reply to #1574517)
Subject: RE: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?


N W Tennessee
I have had pretty good luck with 31G71. 1615 is really tall, that I don't like,but yielded well for me dry-land in 2010. Hard to pick a strong stress hybrid like we use to have in 31B13. 1184 has good stress and GOOD staygreen. Don't have much experience with Dekalb.
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Money maker
Posted 2/1/2011 21:15 (#1586879 - in reply to #1574517)
Subject: RE: Pioneer and Dekalb Varieties?


6721 semi flex plant at 32k and on heavy ground. Handles stress and is tall. 6788 is a southern variety extremely tall and needs to be 32k. Put on stress ground and will make good corn. If you place this one on too good of ground you will have more stalk and not enough ear. 6805 is a top yielded that likes good south delta weather and doesn't like wet feet. 33 to34k population. You want to blow out the yield? Go6469 at 34k and 230 to24units of N. It's a ra e horse with a little defense.
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