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John Deere 4455
Posted 1/8/2011 18:59 (#1535506)
Subject: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
The other day while turning the wheel the end cap of the pump blew off and wont steer anymore. We got the new cap but I was wondering what would have caused this and if its going to happen again with the new cap?

TIA
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gene_champ
Posted 1/8/2011 19:16 (#1535539 - in reply to #1535506)
Subject: RE: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


NORTH IOWA
maybe some of the 'white experts' will chime in also. i assume you meant the steering cylinder, not the pump, since there is not a seperate pump. i have had the cylinder end cap bolts work loose, and had to retighten them. i would think it would leak pretty bad by the time they worked all the way out. the cylinder is known to crack.i had to replace mine. not a fun job to do, but just takes time. the replacement is much more heavy duty.

if you cant see any cracks in the cast, i would replace the cap, and try it while someone watches for leaks.



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bharzman
Posted 1/8/2011 19:23 (#1535554 - in reply to #1535539)
Subject: Re: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


North Central Kansas
I had something similar. But mine, the cylinder up front under the radiator, one end "split" off. There was no repair. Just get a new.

I had a goodie on mine just 2 months ago. The charge pump locked up, which sheered my pto shaft.
To fix that, rock shaft (minor leak), high low trannie (been out for 2 years just had mid range) They had to split the tractor, and take the cab off.
$16,000 later I got a pretty new tractor.
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Farmer at heart OG.
Posted 1/8/2011 19:44 (#1535592 - in reply to #1535554)
Subject: Re: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


Wisconsin
Sorry to here your misfortune with your 2-155. Our story almost same just at different times. 2-155 3 speed went out with 7300+ hrs. on it dealer tried to cheat and use used Oliver part's to save dough. Fixed again right few month's later. Ran okay until about 3 year's ago and hydraulic gear in pump destructed over 5 grand was back in service. The tach quit and was replaced after the tranny repair and broke a few more after so not sure on hour's exactly but my guess is defiantly over 11,000 hour's now and our's is a 1979 model. How is your's on year and hour's?
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bharzman
Posted 1/8/2011 20:00 (#1535637 - in reply to #1535592)
Subject: Re: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


North Central Kansas
mine is a 1979 model had 3477 on it when bought at farm sale in 2007 in stromsburg ne. It was a cold ask day. They had a 2-155, 2-135, 2-105for sale that day. Current hours 3972

bill...
labor to split tractor and remove cab to replace charge pump, replace spider gear pins, rebuilt power shift in front of trany, replace rock shaft seals and bearings and retraining rings, replace geroter pump, hyd filters, oil, antifreeze, clutch, release and pilot brg rear main seal
note...on spider gear pin, the one that was broken the housing was worne so we used a different snap ring to keep it in.
59.75 hours labor at 65 is 3883.75
parts 12,466.31
total 16350.06

have complete bill here so can give more breakdown if you like.
one shaft 1402.19
one pump 1668.24
one pump 3961.74
every thing else was under 650.00

tractor use:
20' flail shreader
JD 750 NT drill (primary use)
6 row bedder/planter combo
pull grain cart at harvest if needed
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gene_champ
Posted 1/8/2011 20:27 (#1535701 - in reply to #1535637)
Subject: calling unifarmer111


NORTH IOWA
i always enjoyed his white exploits. miss his posts, as he had a world of experience on them whites. anyone know what happened? hope it wasn't that br thing.
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QuAppelle
Posted 1/8/2011 20:58 (#1535764 - in reply to #1535506)
Subject: Re: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


Sask
I had the steering cylinder crack on a 2-85. The piston and gear were OK and put in a new cylinder.
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ronsene
Posted 1/8/2011 22:36 (#1535968 - in reply to #1535506)
Subject: RE: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


I had the same thing happen on a 2-105. When I compared the old end cap to the new one, the new one was definitely heavier duty. It had gussets formed into the casting that were not on the old one.
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unifarmor
Posted 1/9/2011 00:11 (#1536135 - in reply to #1535701)
Subject: RE: calling unifarmer111



Western Oregon
I just haven't had much to say as of late. I'm not really a White expert I just talked a lot about them. But, I am glad you enjoyed my rambling stories. I've gone back to lurking.
Some years ago I worked for a farmer who had a lot of problems with the steering on a White 2-105. He adapted a standard cross cylinder (I think it might have been a longer stroke) to replace the White cylinder. I think they just welded something onto the tie rod but I don't remember how it mounted. Just used the standard white steering valve under the dash.
I am quite tense at the moment as I found metal filings in the threespeed on my 2-155. No slipping, no noise, but I can imagine spending multiple thousands on the project.
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gene_champ
Posted 1/9/2011 13:03 (#1536865 - in reply to #1536135)
Subject: RE: calling unifarmor


NORTH IOWA
good to hear from you. so, did you change to oil, or how did you come to check for fillings? my white guy tells me to overfill by 1 quart on the over/under for longer life. that advise may not do you any good at this point. if i see him again soon, i will ask about the fillings issue. good luck!
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bike across Iowa
Posted 1/9/2011 15:51 (#1537191 - in reply to #1535506)
Subject: RE: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


Charles City. Iowa
We are a old White Dealer in Charles City. We sell New Holland and AGCO planters and parts. First just put new cap on 2 hours of labor. If that does no work you going to have to pull the Cly unit out if the tractor and rebuild steer unit bearing go out in the base. New units are 25% heaver.If put new base in must cut down cap we have pictures to do it right We do one a mouth. need help call 641-228-5714 talk to me Steve. Tractor was build in Charles City, Iowa we been a dealer for 60 years.
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unifarmor
Posted 1/9/2011 17:24 (#1537375 - in reply to #1536865)
Subject: Re: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off



Western Oregon
I saw it on the end of the dipstick. One day it was clear, the next it had a little silver shine. I changed the oil and there were cast iron type filings in the filter. I unhooked it from the drill and attached the 2-135. I drove the 2-155 home and parked it. I am going to tear it apart this coming week.
I would like to know how to tell the difference between the heavy and light 3-speeds. I've acquired one out of a silver strip 2-155 and from a 4-150 but my 155 is a early series III. (1982) They look the same to me.
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John Deere 4455
Posted 1/10/2011 19:45 (#1539815 - in reply to #1537191)
Subject: RE: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
I dont know the year... we bought it from a salvage yard with about 5900 hrs on it and it sits on a manure pump all year. I think we put 400 hrs on it so far...
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gene_champ
Posted 1/11/2011 16:54 (#1541948 - in reply to #1539815)
Subject: RE: 2-155 power steering pump blew end cap off


NORTH IOWA
maybe just use it as a stationary power unit then. shouldn't leak if use you don't try to steer.
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