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oakcreekfarm
Posted 10/28/2010 09:27 (#1411571)
Subject: HP required for planter width?


How many row can a 75HP tractor pull, it has MFWD, added weight in back and front. Our ground is flat, and soils are a light clay, and not very many acre's.
Am I am going to be way to short on horsepower to run a 11 row interplant? Or would it be smart for me to just run a 6 row
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Buster 50
Posted 10/28/2010 09:35 (#1411586 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?



North West IA
I think you'll be ok with 11 rows. Is this tilled or no till? Deeply tilled ground will take more power.
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wayneNWAR
Posted 10/28/2010 09:44 (#1411602 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: RE: HP required for planter width?


north west arkansas
It should be fine, but alot depends on what tractor it is. Their is alot of differences in a 75hp tractor. I pulled an 8 row 7000 John Deere this year with a 6640 ford and I never used the fwa. I was Notilling beans into wheat stubble.

Edited by wayneNWAR 10/28/2010 09:47
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zkeele
Posted 10/28/2010 09:48 (#1411609 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: RE: HP required for planter width?


Tennessee
My cousin has for the past 20 years pulled a 9 row White 5100 Soybean planter with his 2755 Deere.
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lylefarm
Posted 10/28/2010 09:54 (#1411616 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?



East of Dowagiac Michigan
My first thought is with the safety of roading the planter.......BE VERY CAREFUL. I'm really not sure about in the field......in soft ground it will pull easier down than up.
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oakcreekfarm
Posted 10/28/2010 09:57 (#1411627 - in reply to #1411616)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?


It will be all no-till. And the tractor is one of the smaller compact tractors, with added weight it is probably close to 8750lbs. I think it could easily pull a 6 or 8 row. I had no idea on a 11 row interplant or a straight 12 row.
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JohnKS
Posted 10/28/2010 10:37 (#1411676 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?



Kansas
Depends on how heavy the planter is. Pulled 8 row 400 Cyclo with Oliver 88 years ago and it didn't even notice it was pulling it, but now have a White and just from pulling it with a pickup you know it's about 3x the weight of that 400. Adding interplants you would be close to 2x your standard weight. Chances are you would be ok.
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TractorFixerGuy
Posted 10/28/2010 11:23 (#1411716 - in reply to #1411676)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?


Freeburg IL
neighbor pulls a kinze 11 row interplant with a jd 6220 2 wheel drive and has no trouble. and he works all the ground. some flat and some hilly.
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MARIE
Posted 10/28/2010 11:36 (#1411728 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: RE: HP required for planter width?


EC WI
You shouldn't have a problem. I pull a Kinze 11 row interplant with my 2WD 7405 JD (105 HP). The Planter is equipped with liquid fertilizer. Power is more than adequate as I normally throttle the tractor back to 1500 RPS's. I have some rather steep hills were wheel slip is a concern and MFWD would be helpful.
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sparrell
Posted 10/28/2010 14:07 (#1411888 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: RE: HP required for planter width?



Matt, sorry I haven't got back to your email yet, but another thing you might want to consider is the max. hyd. flow of your tractor at the remotes. I would guess that a tractor that small will lift a Kinze 3000 with the self leveling interplant hitch pretty slowly unless it is a newer tractor with increased flow. The tractor I use on mine has about 17 gpm flow and I have to plant 4 rounds (24 rows) of headland to have time to be able to get the planter up and turned around for the next pass. If I had much less flow at all, I'd have to be clutching nearly ever round to stop the tractor to give it time to lift the planter to get lined up for the next pass. Just something you might want to consider.

As far as your orginal question, it is probably more important to have enough tractor weight to control the planter than just HP to pull it. I think 75 HP will pull it fine at 4 to 5 MPH. Not sure about 6 to 7 mph all day long though. I farm some fairly steep hilly notill ground and would not want much less tractor weight than I have now when turning on steep hillsides, but you said you have flat ground so thats probably a non-issue.

Lastly, you might want to check the drawbar height of your tractor. Most smaller 75 hp tractors I've seen have small rear tires, frames, etc. that leads the drawbar to be pretty low to the ground. IMO, it is critical that one levels the interplant planter correctly, and I've found that on my 3000 with the double frame, the drawbar needs to be about 21" off the ground to run the planter level. On a 75hp tractor, you might not be able to acheive that, but then again if you are not getting a planter with a double frame, that measurement will likely be different. If you are buying new, I would strongly recommend the double frame option even if you are not putting fertilizer on it if you notill much. The extra weight of the double frame will come in very handy.







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oakcreekfarm
Posted 10/28/2010 15:42 (#1411945 - in reply to #1411888)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?


thank you for all the information. We had to get a tractor to feed cattle, the farming wasn't even a thought at that point. We bought a 2006 Montana tractor, it works really well for feeding cattle, can easily carry 1700lb bales through the mud. I have done some no till for cattle feed with it, and decided to stay small and just try to do the farming as well. The back tires are smaller, and the drawbar is low. That is something that I had not given any thought to. Don't know what I can do about that though.
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plowmaster
Posted 10/28/2010 16:27 (#1411969 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?



Sucker brook, NY
i dont think i would try to use a four cyl tractor if thats the case
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cblackburn13
Posted 10/29/2010 11:26 (#1413076 - in reply to #1411571)
Subject: Re: HP required for planter width?



Columbia City, IN & Coldwater, MI
I've pulled a JD 7200 8 row conventional planter with a JD 5603 weighted out. Prob 8500lbs. Had no problems but would be afraid of wet ground.
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