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Northeastern Nebraska | We've got these two fertilizer businesses in my area and both claim they got a good fertilizer for soybeans. Has anyone used fertilizer from these companies with increased soybean yields. I've been spreading dry ahead of planting from my local Coop. If I can get better bean yields I'd put a liquid starter on my planter. Thanks |
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Traverse City MI | We put some 6-24-6 on our beans this year from nachurs. Best beans we have ever had but it was an abnormal year. We put 2 gallons on in furrow as well as a dry in the 2x2. We are done with beans and the other guys are starting to run good but have yet to hear yields from them. The best thing you could do would be find someone in your area who is doing it or has the capability to do it and try some strips. |
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WC Illinois/SE Iowa | We sell Nachurs here in Western IL/Southeast IA. We also sold a Slow Release Nitrogen product from Kugler. The owner of our company has been selling Nachurs for over 30 years. If you want to see our latest research on Nachurs you can visit our website. www.so-ilservice.com I don't think this years results are posted yet. I'm not trying to sell any to you, because you are defanitely out of my area. I just wanted to show you some data. I can tell you that if this year's data isn't posted yet, I weighed a bean trial for a customer in wIL and it made 4 bu better when adding 2gallon of 3-18-18-1 and 1/2 pt of zinc in furrow vs no starter. I also weighed one for a customer of mine near Iowa City, same program, and it only out yielded by 1 bu. So it really didn't pay at this trial this year. I actually have comparison pictures of the trial from wIL if you are interested. We won't have a lot of data on corn from this year as 40%-50% of our plots had to be replanted, so that kinda skews the results.
Our area tends to be low in Potash. This is why most of our customers use 3-18-18-1. Sometimes we will add a gallon of 0-0-30 to help that out. There is a Nachurs distributor in Columbus, NE that we deal with on some products that we manufacture, that I believe use mainly 6-24-6 with their customers. If you are looking for a little more nitrogen in your product, there is also a 9-18-9-1 analysis offered.
As for Kugler starter, we have never tried it against Nachurs, so I really can't give any info here. |
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waaaay east central Colorado | First off, I've got no first-hand experience with beans, but I do know the Kugler company. Kugler has been a good company with good products and great service in our area for a long time. They've got some very sharp people working with them. If you're considering a liquid starter setup on your planter, have your Kugler guys get you in touch with Freddie Burke (sp?). That guy knows his stuff. |
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| sodbuster35 - 10/25/2010 08:23
Our area tends to be low in Potash. This is why most of our customers use 3-18-18-1. Sometimes we will add a gallon of 0-0-30 to help that out. .
Do you mean a gallon per acre of 0-0-30? If so, I'm guessing that you already know that it's only 3 lbs of actual potash per acre. |
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| There's nothing wrong with the actual plant food except that it's way overpriced on a per pound of plant food basis. You are way better off diverting those dollars that you would waste with them and transferring those funds to soil applied dry or regular liquid fertilizer.
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Gilby,ND | I can guarantee you will get more uptake in the plant with that 3 pounds liquid than broadcasting 100 #'s dry, its all about how the plant uses it and not how much you apply |
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| NH8970 - 10/25/2010 22:56
I can guarantee you will get more uptake in the plant with that 3 pounds liquid than broadcasting 100 #'s dry, its all about how the plant uses it and not how much you apply
I'd like to hear that explanation. lol.
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Gilby,ND | Look at research, i don't have to explain anything.
http://www.nachurs.com/research-web/no-till.pdf |
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| That article has nothing to do with Potassium. It's about Phosphorous.
Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree with your claim about the 3 lbs K versus 100 lbs K unless you have some kind of reasonable explanation.
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North Central Ohio, across the Corn belt ! | Jon S - 10/25/2010 20:24 There's nothing wrong with the actual plant food except that it's way overpriced on a per pound of plant food basis. You are way better off diverting those dollars that you would waste with them and transferring those funds to soil applied dry or regular liquid fertilizer. Correct for sure Jon S
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Gilby,ND | Posted the wrong article
What proof do you have its better have you tried both ways on your farm, im guessing no
We used to spread K and now we don't, our tissue tests are better now than results were before, better crops, better soil tests
so unless you have tried it, DO NOT KNOCK IT!!
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| The proof that I have is a pretty good understanding of organic chemistry, soil science, and plant physiology coupled with my own farm experience. I also spent 13 years in the fertilizer retail business working with similar type products along with agricultural grade fertilizers. I was smart enough to not endorse the clear grades in the row crop agricultural markets because it's overpriced on a per unit of plant food basis. T&O is an entirely different market where the goal is to spoon feed a crop to precisely control growth.
Your claims defy logic.
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Gilby,ND | we will have to agree to disagree, but all i can say it is saves us money, isn't that what its all about, the bottom line, that is what i am trying to point out, there are things out there that will work, if you have never tried it on your farm it is hard to say it won't work, all i ask is to try it before putting it down |
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