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Pat H
Posted 10/21/2010 09:32 (#1402068)
Subject: Semi truck sleeper removal vs. trans change over



Cropsey, IL
As a few of you guys have posted here, there seem to be a lot more trucks with sleepers to choose from. We are pretty pleased with the cheap sterling autoshift (which may need a alternator - hopefully the worst problem it has), but finding another sterling with the same 12.7 Detroit and autoshift at a similar price, even looking a little older, doesn't look good. It might just be cyclical thing where fleets sold a lot of these trucks and now they are in the hands of the 2nd owner (like mine was), or autoshifts just didn't catch on much around 2000-2003.
I did talk a dealer who said they were 'stuck' with a couple of autoshifts for a while - I would have liked to help them get 'unstuck' but too late.

Anyway, if my goal is to stay with sterling, but it's unlikely I'll find the same powertrain. Moving to another brand seems to have more choices at decent prices. The downside is they all have sleepers of various sizes. I found the daycab removal company, but have not priced a kit yet (anyone have a ballpark $ figure for the kits?). It seems like buying a truck with the powertrain I'd like and removing the sleeper and possibly shortening the frame might be less costly than swapping in an autoshift (trans $2500 + harness + ECM programming = probably near $4000 plus my time). What do you guys think? The daycab conversions look really good and chop saw blades have no problem with frame rails (and I have a magnetic base drill).

Thanks

Pat
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emtbd1979
Posted 10/21/2010 10:23 (#1402124 - in reply to #1402068)
Subject: Re: Semi truck sleeper removal vs. trans change over



west central illinois
It would depend on what kind of truck you are looking at if your are staying with the sterling or kenworth and Peres aren't hard at all to convert but the ih and freightliner are a new ball game if the have the integrated cab and sleeper
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bcboy
Posted 10/21/2010 12:41 (#1402199 - in reply to #1402068)
Subject: Re: Semi truck sleeper removal vs. trans change over



Not really sure why you would want an auto-shift, now I'm no expert on autoshift trans but why would you want something with a lot of sensors and another processor if you didn't have to. In 30 years of heavy and I mean heavy hauling I have never had a tower problem, teeth and bearings sure, since the 18's came along even the syncro problems settled down .But to make something that has gotten increasingly better over the years more complicated no thanks. Ask a shop on the price to repair an autoshift that was electrical in nature. And if I could make all my tractors mechanical again I'd do it in a heartbeat. Just my 2.08 canadian cents.
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RodInNS
Posted 10/21/2010 15:35 (#1402333 - in reply to #1402068)
Subject: RE: Semi truck sleeper removal vs. trans change over


I think if you find a reasonably short tractor with a bunk and setback front axle it'll probably turn around short enough for any tralier you've got behind it.
If I had the choice between removing a bunk or swapping a transmission I'd remove a bunk, hands down, no questions asked and that's not even considering autoshift. Just find one with a removable bunk and it's a pretty simple job. Integral sleepers are a lot more work...

Rod
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