Posted 3/16/2010 21:37 (#1123473) Subject: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
I seen all three off these at a consignment sale today. I assume the 568 is the newest baler an the 566 is the oldest. Tell me about these balers an the differences. I never owned a round baler. Just had the neighbor do it. The 568 sure looked a lot beafier then the other two. Tell me what years they were made an what to look for in a used baler. These kind off sales are as is where most off the time there is no owner around to represent them. Like a pig in a poke. Thanks guys for your input.
Posted 3/16/2010 22:16 (#1123588 - in reply to #1123569) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
They made the 566 from 97-00, 567 from 01-06 and 568 from 07 to present. I had a 566 at one time, had alot of promblems with it and went away from JD for a couple of balers but now Im back with a 568 and love it. It is way heavier built then a 566 or 567. Heavier pickup, floatation tires, improved net system. Put well over 4k bales thru my new 568 last yr without a single service call, the 605M I had before it burnt up with less bales then the 568, and had many service calls and bearing promblems with it, actually the same bearing and roller that went out on my M all replaced under warranty wnet out again in less then 300 bales later and burnt the baler up.
Posted 3/16/2010 22:10 (#1123574 - in reply to #1123473) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
What do you guys own for round balers.? Do you like what you have an do they do a good job for you? Im not partial to any brand just curous on what you guys recommend for balers. Trying to learn a bit. Thanks So what year is the 535 baler? Sounds like older then the ones I listed.
Posted 3/16/2010 22:40 (#1123659 - in reply to #1123574) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
East Central, Nebraska
Ive had hesstons, new hollands, case ih which was new hollands and hesstons, and deeres. The deere does circles around them all. never had a vermeer or anything else because there is no dealerships around here. I am not a deere lover but their balers are pretty awesome. I have owned 535, 566, 567, and now 2 568's and they are excellent machines. The only flaws in deeres system is the netwrap problems. Some balers never have problems and some are everlasting nightmares. The great design originated from the 535 and that is still a great baler, alot of times they bring more money than a 566. Some people say its because one is electronic and the other isn't but i believe its because no one knows all the 535's out there have thousands and thousands of bales on them. The 566 and up the bale count is really hard to hide. I truely believe that no baler will make as many bales per hour as a 568 and a good shifting tractor vs. any other baler and the same tractor. I prefer a case ih 7120. I can move....
Posted 3/17/2010 08:58 (#1124122 - in reply to #1123868) Subject: RE: not to get off subject, how many bales/hr with 568?
You must be twine tieing. With net wrapping it will pretty much double your output. More so in heavy windrows. My personal best is 45 bales/hr. but there are a few on here that have claimed 60+. Our feed hay was making seven 1300 lb bales to the acre and the machine was wrapping and ejecting as often as the tractor was moving forward. It was kind of fun!
Posted 3/17/2010 22:52 (#1125175 - in reply to #1124122) Subject: RE: not to get off subject, how many bales/hr with 568?
south central IOWA
No, I only use net wrap. I guess I'm not going fast enough but looking for quality not quantity since it's baled for myself. Plus, baling the hilly ground we have I know is slowing me down. After you roll a bale into a pond it makes you back up just a little further or make sure the bale is going to sit there.
Posted 3/17/2010 09:02 (#1124128 - in reply to #1123868) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
A 567 or 568 with net and megawide pickup, baling on 30' windrows of alfalfa (2 16's raked together) @ 3 x 72" bales/acre @ 8mph = peak 40 bales/hour but avg 30/hour over the day. With straw, in winter wheat 30' windrows, we have done up to 60 bales per hour if you don't have to change net rolls during that hour but 50 bales/hour averaged over the length of a day.
I ditto the problems with the net on some deere balers. I have had my 567 since 2001 and the net system has been good. When I was looking for my 568, I found a 1 year old used one on a lot whose net system never did work properly. Apparently it would wrap on the rubber roller at the back and sometimes it wouldn't cut. Deere techs couldn't even figure it out. By end of summer, dealership took it back on trade. I was lucky the salesman is a friend of mine and recommended I stay away from that baler and in the end I bought a new one.
Posted 3/17/2010 10:18 (#1124234 - in reply to #1123659) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
Here is a video of our custom baler baling first cutting alfalfa and averaging a bale a minute but it has to be good going to keep that average up and he said baling behind our rotary rake helps alot because the windrows are even without any clumps.
Posted 3/16/2010 22:53 (#1123692 - in reply to #1123574) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
Eastern Half of Kansas
As far as 5x6 round balers you are mentioning, John Deere made them in this order. 500, 510, 530, 535, 566, 567, 568. I wouldn't own a 500 or 510 if it was given to me. 530 and on are great balers. We own a 468 which is the 4ft model of the 568 and owned 2-467's before that.
Posted 3/17/2010 00:25 (#1123888 - in reply to #1123473) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
We have run a 466, just a foot narrower, for 2 years now and love it. It is the first baler I've seen that can bale faster than you can cut. We have had some net issues with it tearing but it had to do with the wet ground and the pickup height. Every few hundred bales there is a lot of debris to clean out of areas but all in all it is a damn nice baler. I've looked at some 568's and they are massive, be very interesting to see if we could even bale in some areas with them they must weigh a bunch but they do have nice flotation tires.
Posted 3/17/2010 08:20 (#1124073 - in reply to #1123888) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
run a 4440 on my 568 with the big floater tires. It works the tractor sometimes, in soft meadow it will make the tractor bark. Baler is awesome. Had a 566 and was really happy with it so updated and love this 568 so far.
Posted 3/17/2010 08:31 (#1124086 - in reply to #1124073) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
I wouldnt run anything smaller then 130 HP on a 568. I ran mine on a 2390 Case till we got the 7810 MFD last fall. Last fall with the 7810 balin cornstalks at 8+ mph it would make it snort if any hills at all. My 2390 smoked like a freight train balin at 7- 8 mph, worked it pretty good.
Posted 3/17/2010 09:04 (#1124134 - in reply to #1123473) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
I had headaches with the pickup bearings and cams in both my new 567 and 568 balers. From this site I learned about a JD recall on the cam rollers and fixed my 568 under warrantee and am in great shape now. I love my 568 now short of one thing. It tends to constantly tear off a little net wrap on the right side of the bottom starter roller. Not always but often enough to be a nuisance. I might start a new thread on this subject but we'll see if I get any suggestions here. I think you would love any of the balers you listed above. If the balers have only baled grass and alfalfa they will run forever but if they have been in corn stalks it will really rough them up a lot. Especially the pickup and belts.
Posted 3/17/2010 10:44 (#1124270 - in reply to #1123473) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
I run a 567 now, and have run them all from the 530's. The electric tying on the 566 and up is way better than the hydraulic job on the 530. The 568 has the new square teeth, and they seem to be working good on my dad's baler. The flotation tires are a preference thing. Dad had them on his 568, but he kept blowing them out, so we went back to the wider smaller tires. The little roller thing on the front of the 568 works pretty good in grass hay as well. On all of the balers, you have an option to get the HD chains, but on the 568 you can get 80 HD chains instead of 60 HD's on the others. If looking at one of these balers at an auction, I would first look at the sprockets (of course). Also, make sure that the back of the gate doesn't have any cracks in the "lips" at the edge of the gate. If it does, that means the gate is/was bent. This could have been from the gate not latching on one side while making a bale, or baling a crooked bale and using the kicker. I guess you can also look at the slip clutches in the pto and the universals. If the belts are torn up, they baled cornstalks with it, and if it were me, I would not buy a baler that had been used for that (just me probably). If you see one with a Megawide pickup (available on 567 and 568) just know that they can help a lot with not leaving as much hay, but they are expensive to rebuild. I like ours, but some people don't like them. With the Megawide pickup you will get a "knife" type beater that feeds the hay into the baler. It is near impossible to plug this thing up unless the grass hay you have is extremely long, or you get a little piece of wood stuck in it. If you don't get a megawide, you will get a pipe roller with either round bars welded in a spiral, or square bars welded straight across. These things clog easy. I've clogged the 567 and 568 twice in about 6000 bales. The 530 - 566 balers clogged at least twice a field. These are just my experiences. I now only use JD's, but my dad has had all kinds and now sticks with JD's as well. Hope this helps and good luck if you get one.
Posted 3/17/2010 15:45 (#1124573 - in reply to #1124270) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
North Central Missouri
I'm haven't had near the trouble with plugging that you are talking about with a 535 or a 566. Don't get me wrong i have plugged them. Usually not too bad. Only one or two that were real bad. The only time I ever have an issue is if the hay is a little too green to be baling anyway like in a shady spot or a low spot where the hay is heavier and ground a little damper. If the hay is good and dry I didn't think you could plug one. That's been my experience anyway.
Oh and about the original post I ran a 566 for several years that my Great Grandpa owned and now run a 535 of my own. The hydraulic tie on the 535 and all the adjustments are on the right hand side of the baler for bale size and twine spacing vs on on the monitor for the 566 and up. Once you get everything set not being able to change it from the cab on the monitor is very minor.
The cracks that someone else mentioned on the end gate I do have on my 535. They don't appear to be too severe, but is this a future problem in the making? Would it be beneficial to weld this cracks up they aren't very large?
Posted 3/17/2010 18:10 (#1124676 - in reply to #1124573) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
I have been asked the question about welding the cracks many times. All I can say is that I have a 530 with right around 30,000 bales through it, and the cracks are no bigger now than when I got it. I have opted to not weld them. We use it to bale about 300 bales a year in Comfort, TX. It is still a really good baler. I have some trouble with the latches on the gate, but it is not that big of deal. The way I see it......is if I weld them up, and it accidentally happens again, it will crack on the side of the weld, and I might have an even bigger problem on my hands. I baled about half a bale one time before realizing it was bending the gate. I dumped the bale and the gate closed fine. I haven't had another problem since then, and I've put quite a few bales through it since then.
EDIT: The thing nice about setting the twine from the cab is the options that can be chosen from. You can choose the spacing for the string, the number of wraps on each end, and even how far the wraps are from the end. When doing custom or baling for different hay buyers, this option is great over the previous balers. If you are going to haul the hay you can put more on and if it is just going to sit there, you can put as little as possible on the fly. I use it a lot, but if you're baling just for yourself, I can see that it would not be that big of deal.
Posted 3/17/2010 13:56 (#1124474 - in reply to #1123473) Subject: RE: John Deere 566 here
'99 model. mega-tooth pick-up and twine tie. The counter is at 11,800 or so. I'd really like to update but the dang thing has been such a good unit! The only true, major repair was my fault. Pulled thing home from storage behind pickup, and managed to jam the CV joint on front of PTO shaft. $1200 later I had it cured, and take the thing off now... It has been a very trouble-free machine. Only 1 belt replaced, 1 driveline clutch, a couple roller bearings and 1 roller, plenty of pins and teeth, maybe half of the stripper plates
Posted 3/17/2010 15:44 (#1124571 - in reply to #1123473) Subject: Re: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
Look closely at the belts. When they are new you can see 3 distinct steps in the diamond tread. As they wear you will only see two and then just the one. If they are from anywhere near Peanut country, make SURE they haven't baled peanut hay. It is VERY tough on the machines.
If you are looking at ones with Net Wrap, buy the newest one you can afford. There were a few early 568's that gave trouble, but it can be remedied by the right technician (LONG, tedious process though).
568's have a MUCH stronger belt than the 6 and 7 series.
Posted 3/19/2010 18:40 (#1127097 - in reply to #1123473) Subject: RE: John Deere 566,567 an 568 round baler.
We've had all three...we trade balers every year....and the 568 tops them hands down - its pretty amazing that a baler can run at 9 MPH, little moisture and put together a quality bale. The poster above is right though...some balers are lemons, some are great, the one we traded last year was troublesome the first season, and this past season the only time I shut down was to change wrap...As many balers as we go through we have had very few problems all the way up from 535's. As far as HP, I wouldn't know the minimum, we run an 8300 and 8530 on our two - usually we bale ground that had cattle on it, bump down to the 7800 and you'll be sore by morning, run one of the 8000's, you won't be able to stay awake - luckily the "wrapping" beeper wakes you!