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Slicker than a Yes album. | Any way of doing this without welding angle under the plate? Be nice to have the swivel when using a hopper the rest of the time. |
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Wheatley, Arkansas | Ours have @ 1'' pipe welded to the plate and seperate pieces welded to the side. To lock you put a 1'' pin through the three pipes, for free play on the plate, pull the pin. If you'd like I'll get some pics tomorrow. |
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| We have two T-800's that must have run end dumps in their former life, they had round pipe welded on either side of the front of the plate that I assumed was used to pin the plates. I will try to take pictures tomorrow if you would like. |
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SouthCentral WI | Weld a couple of mounts next to the 5th wheel plate ( not under it)then bolt a stop to that mount, that will keep the plate from tipping.
Towman
Edited by towman2000 3/5/2010 21:44
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| I have put on a lot of the pipe and rod set-ups, and they continue to be the most common because they tend to be the most universal. I have gone to blocks front and rear, bolted in place, after seeing some of the pipes welded under the fifth wheel fail due to force pushing them forward and up. If the fixture is placed in the front, the same potential problem exists, only backwards. However there are a bunch on them out there, and are accepted. |
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Centeral Il | not to hyjack a post but i saw a guy at the elevator had a 6x6 tarp strapped under his fifth wheel that was interesting |
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So. IL | Not to sound stupid, but I guess you are trying to lock it for a frameless dump correct? Frame type do not need to be locked up. To lock it up, use pipe and round bar stock at the rear of the fifth wheel. We have had several trucks and have never had one single problem with this type of set up. |
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Slicker than a Yes album. | Yes, a friend is pondering details of frame/frameless and the issues in setting up a truck. |
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SW MO | I would like to see the pictures if you have time |
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Las Vegas | I just built mine about a month ago.....I'll get some pics as well. |
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The Breakfast Club | I'd go w/the pipe deal. Easy, one piece...weld a couple small pieces of tube elsewhere on the frame for stowage when its not in use. Use grease on the pipe so you can get it back out after extended use. |
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| I guess that I was incorrect about the location, it is on the back of the plate. Wow, I can't believe how dirty the truck gets after two days of driving. 
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Alberta, Canada | Sorry, can anyone explain to me why you want to do this?
Just curious as neither we nor anyone I've seen has done this.
Thanks. |
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Wheatley, Arkansas | If you do not lock the fifth wheel solid in some fashion, and pull a frameless dump wagon the fifth wheel will flop back and forth every time you accelerate or hit your brakes. |
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Alberta, Canada | Ah, I understand now ----- I think ------ Thanks!
Never been around a frameless trailer, so hopefully my ignorance can be excused. :) |
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Ontario,Canada | JoshA - 3/7/2010 00:40
Ah, I understand now ----- I think ------ Thanks!
Never been around a frameless trailer, so hopefully my ignorance can be excused. :)
I learned something new as well, today. |
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Wheatley, Arkansas | The fifth wheel needs to be stationary because the trailer kingpin plate is not rigid like a conventional trailer. The A arms pivot as the trailer raises up.
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Slicker than a Yes album. | Les, you need to blow up that pic and post it in the shop as how to NOT park on your place! |
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Wheatley, Arkansas | That issue was dealt with. I preached on not blocking the drive when parking vehicles, that picture was on the same day. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised when I returned to the shop and saw where my Jeep was parked at. The employee that parked it there is in search of a job now, anyone need another hired hand? |
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pinning 5th wheel for end dump
