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Kelly
Posted 1/10/2010 08:27 (#1014267)
Subject: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


With heaters that are designed for kerosene, can diesel be used instead? naturally, the diesel would be a winter blend. This is in farm buildings that smell doesn't matter very much. I noticed that kerosene is priced over $8 a gallon in local store.

Thanks
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Wizard
Posted 1/10/2010 08:34 (#1014283 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


Fletcher, OH
Diesel soots too much. Try a 60% diesel 40% gasoline blend. It works good is our Steam Jenny. I had heard about it for people with antique distillate tractors. Try a small amount to see what happens.
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Gunner
Posted 1/10/2010 08:47 (#1014307 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?



Modena, Wisconsin
It will work in most of them but will smoke more and have some soot.  If you can find straight number 1 that would be the best replacement.  After looking for a little while I found a station around here that carries kerosene, it was about $1.25 more than diesel.
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Tommy
Posted 1/10/2010 08:48 (#1014308 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


Iowa
I haven't had the need to do this in many, many years, but I always used to burn #1 diesel in a Knipco. It will smell a tad bit more. I would wonder if a blend or #2 might not work, especially if below zero?? Anyway, I used to heat hog buildings with Knipcos on # 1 diesel. Burned THOUSANDS of gallons w/o issues.
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 1/10/2010 10:32 (#1014497 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


I have a multi fuel Reddy Heater designed to burn either diesel or kerosene and I really can't tell any difference between the two fuels in it.  I burn #2 diesel in it 95% of the time but have tried kerosene a couple of times.  We have a local gas station that sells kerosene, I think it was $3/gallon when I bought some a couple weeks ago.
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sri
Posted 1/10/2010 10:32 (#1014498 - in reply to #1014283)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


  I would not mix gasoline with diesel period,   to much risk of explosion.    Not worth the risk... Might as well pay the 8 bucks a gallon as and overnight in hospital.
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 1/10/2010 10:42 (#1014510 - in reply to #1014498)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?



Chebanse, IL

I agree on gas/diesel mix. It won't be done in our burners.

I see that all the newest kerosene-fuel type heaters sold in local Farm & Fleet all said they would burn

K1

Kerosene

Jet-A

Diesel fuel

We burn K-1, diesel, & kerosene in ours depending on what we're doing. Even with K1 there's a smell that may or may not be obnoxious, depending on how glad you are to be warm.

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farmerbroun
Posted 1/10/2010 10:48 (#1014521 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?



If you have any truck stops close, check there. Local truck stop here was $3.50 for K-1. $8/gal is home repair store price.
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PaKettle
Posted 1/10/2010 11:24 (#1014606 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?



Lenawee Co Michigan
$8 a gallon!!?! It's $3.25 here, maybe 50ยข more than road Diesel.

Diesel will burn fine in the heater but will leave a distinctive aroma on your clothes.
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JohnW
Posted 1/10/2010 11:48 (#1014648 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


NW Washington
Maybe the new low sulfur diesel would be OK, but normally diesel will soot things up and stink. Jet A is a good alternative to kerosene if you are near an airport.
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smokesgasman
Posted 1/10/2010 12:15 (#1014696 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


so.wisconsin

a friend of mine told me (he works for shell)said that all kerosene is number 1 but not all number 1 meets kerosene standards meaning that it might not be refinded /filtered as much, or you could say that jet fuel is really number 1 but is refined way more than what we would need for an diesel tractor engine or bullit heater he also said that todays usld number 1 is refined alot more than the number 1 that we were getting 5+ years ago and would have no problem useing it in a indoor kero-sun type room heater also said he would NOT mix gas with diesel to put in any type of heater

smoke

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Rusty6
Posted 1/10/2010 12:45 (#1014752 - in reply to #1014696)
Subject: Re: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


S.E. Sask.
I burn the same fuel in my reddy heater as I burn in the tractors, winter diesel. For my use it works just fine but don't do it in a well closed shed or the exhaust fumes could be a problem (health hazard). In the big machinery sheds with high ceilings and ventilation its not even noticeable when I'm using the heater to warm up a cold tractor or grain auger engine.
Actually I have never even tried kerosene so can't comment if there is a difference in the two fuels, other than price.
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Chad H
Posted 1/10/2010 13:01 (#1014780 - in reply to #1014498)
Subject: RE: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


NE SD

The risk of explosion is almost non-existant as the odds of getting the exact mixture needed for it to spark off is about 1 in a billion or more.

I'll take my chances in burning #1 with a gallon of gas added to the tank for the small amount we use our Knipco rather than running 40 miles to spend $8 per gallon on Kerosene that's needed now not two hours from now.

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abordone
Posted 1/10/2010 13:38 (#1014855 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: Re: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?



SW Indiana
As others have said, it really just depends on the Quality of the diesel (at least on the older heaters) good quality diesel such as co-op Ruby Red or dieselx4 will burn well and pretty clean. Lower quality #2 will soot and maybe even not light reliably. In my opinion, if you cant burn the same fuel in the heater that you burn in your equipment, you better be looking for some better quality fuel somewhere.
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2+2, MN
Posted 1/10/2010 14:46 (#1015049 - in reply to #1014780)
Subject: Re: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


New Ulm, MN
running 2/3 #2 and 1/3 gas in a 6 allon can, pour that in the nibco then top it off with #1, stragiht #2 no work, straight #2 gas mix still to smokey, #2 gas mix with #1 no smoke, and nice heat from a old 225,000BTY Knibco, just using it to heat up a unisulated shop so the Skidloader and Poop hauling tactors hyrdralics are warm these last few -20 degree weeks, Knibco on timer to come on at 7AM and we shut it off when we take tractor out aroun 11 or noon, gets shop up to 40.
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mac4440
Posted 1/10/2010 15:01 (#1015077 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: Re: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?



Local fuel distributor has kerosene for $3.50 I think. My John Deere heater says it can use anything from jet-A to #2 diesel. Runs just fine on #2. I usually mix some kerosene with it when its this cold. Got another one that won't run on #2, only kerosene.
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Kelly
Posted 1/10/2010 15:10 (#1015101 - in reply to #1014267)
Subject: Kerosene isn't available locally except in 5 gal cans


Not close to jet fuel either or straight no 1. Everything arrives here blended or mixed when truck drops contents in local station's tnaks.
I thought I would add that tidbit in the discussion. I assume that most heaters won't have a problem igniting no 2?

I will be using it in a big shed with plenty of opportunity for venting.
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banders
Posted 1/10/2010 15:35 (#1015150 - in reply to #1015101)
Subject: Re: Diesel and kerosene interchangable in heaters?


NO 1 diesel and Kerosene used to be the same thing according to our fuel supplier. As your fuel guy if it is still the same.
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