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Oregon Farmer
Posted 5/22/2010 00:01 (#1209338)
Subject: Twin Row Corn Pics


Independence OR
I finally got some pictures of my strip till fields as well as some of my conventional fields. The last two pictures are my first two sweet corn plantings. I am wondering if anyone else has some problems keeping the monosem rows timed correctly?



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westks
Posted 5/22/2010 00:10 (#1209348 - in reply to #1209338)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Brewster, Kansas
Nice pics of corn, pretty country! Mine is just peeking thru today, will be 2 weeks Sat. since planting
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Oregon Farmer
Posted 5/22/2010 00:30 (#1209372 - in reply to #1209348)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Independence OR
Thanks, most of mine took two weeks plus to get out of the ground as well. We have had really cold and wet spring so far. I still have some of my wet ground to plant I just hope it dries out some time soon.

Scott
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canadianeh?
Posted 5/22/2010 00:31 (#1209373 - in reply to #1209348)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Saskatchewan, big whitetail country!!!
gorgeous!
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Jim
Posted 5/22/2010 05:25 (#1209457 - in reply to #1209338)
Subject: RE: Twin Row Corn Pics


Driftless SW Wisconsin

Looks very good, Scott. You did a nice job oof planting the twins on the strips.

As far as timing, in my experience you can have the finger pickups or vacuum seed discs timed perfectly but lose some or all of the stagger in the seed tube during the drop.

I like that 2nd picture!

Jim at Dawn

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DidSomeoneSayDonuts
Posted 5/22/2010 09:45 (#1209643 - in reply to #1209457)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics



waaaay east central Colorado
Good thinking, Jim, tubes hadn't crossed my mind. To Oregon Farmer, I've had my four year old planter for three years now, and have noticed a degradation of stagger over time. We went through the procedure to make sure that timing was correct this winter and thought we had it figured out (we don't, it's still not perfect like it was). There may very well be a new set of tubes on it before next season.
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Oregon Farmer
Posted 5/22/2010 10:40 (#1209709 - in reply to #1209643)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Independence OR
What kind of fertilizer do you put down with your twin row? what kind of placment?


We have yetter 2995 coulters with a injector nozzles mounted in fount two inches to the side of each row as will as pop-up on my rebounders.
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DidSomeoneSayDonuts
Posted 5/22/2010 22:12 (#1210302 - in reply to #1209709)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics



waaaay east central Colorado
Scott, we welded a small tube onto the frog to stabilize the seed and hold a fertilizer macro-line. So we are in furrow, under the seed. Kugler company http://www.kuglercompany.com/ (gotta pimp 'em) makes an excellent starter called 15-15. It's unfortunately not on the web site, but we've had excellent results with it. The 15-15 is a 50/50 blend of 9-24-3 and their XRN (which is on the web site) product. As for the bulk of the fertility, we place our phos and some N with the strip tiller.

We had some issues with trash flow this year for the first time. We got our strip tilling done and caught some wonderfully horrible winds that blew stalks back across our strips. We had to cobble together some coultures (it's telling me I'm spelling that wrong) to get through. Have you had any issues with that? We first tried to mount one coulture (I'm gonna spell it this way until someone tells me how to spell it correctly) in between the two units, but it didn't help. We wound up having to run one coulture directly in front of each unit. Space limited us to only being able to use our trash whipper on the set back unit. This winter one of the projects will be to polish our coulters setup a little bit, and get room enough to run trash whippers on both units of the row. That was a long winded explanation to ask if your Yetter coulters act as a trash cutter, or are for fertilizer placement only.
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Oregon Farmer
Posted 5/24/2010 01:04 (#1211934 - in reply to #1210302)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Independence OR
I haven't used the coulters on my planter for anything but fertilizer. I have them set two inches to the out side of each row. This winter I put row cleaners on the planter and I had to modify the way the coulters mounted to make enough room for the row cleaners. I added a spacer block on the coulters for the front row of each twin so the row cleaner didn't hit the fertilizer coulter. I am thinking about putting my fert down in the strip next season, if so I may move the coulter over and put it right in line with the row and see how it works. We are in the process from changing from full tillage to strip till this season. I may make some more changes to the planter this winter. I attached a picture of the coulter mounts that we added on the planter, however the picure is not that good.

Scott



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Mike Shimek
Posted 5/22/2010 08:00 (#1209523 - in reply to #1209338)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics



High Springs, Florida
Nice corn, be interested to find out how the sweet corn turns out on twin rows. Most folks around here with twin row Monosems don't really care about the timing as most are used to plant peanuts, which are still going in the ground right now.
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steven
Posted 5/22/2010 09:05 (#1209590 - in reply to #1209523)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Clark Co.
Seen a field down around Robinson with twin row corn. What's the advantage?
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tj_farmer
Posted 5/22/2010 09:16 (#1209604 - in reply to #1209590)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


NW central IL
uses more on the area without the need for different harvest equip... i got two neighbors that bought a pair of GP's....i like the concept, but if the industry doesnt move that way, goodluck getting rid of it...dinosaur comes to mind
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UncleSam
Posted 5/22/2010 09:26 (#1209617 - in reply to #1209338)
Subject: RE: Twin Row Corn Pics



Girard Pa.
Only one farmer in my area is using the twin rows.  He plants his corn and soybeans this way.What are the benefits of twin rows over just upping the population on single rows.  I will be replacing my planter in a couple of years and this is something i will be looking at.
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DidSomeoneSayDonuts
Posted 5/22/2010 09:41 (#1209640 - in reply to #1209617)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics



waaaay east central Colorado
One of the biggest advantages, other than being able to up your pops, is weed control. The canopy forms much quicker with twins. Another benefit is improved stalk strength. We shut off one unit per row side by side with twin this year, maybe I'll talk my wife into getting me computer literate enough to post some pics.
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Oregon Farmer
Posted 5/22/2010 10:35 (#1209699 - in reply to #1209640)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Independence OR
We use our twin row planter to plant our snap beans and we really like it for that. I look at the twin row as a 15 inch planter since we are twin row 30"s I plant my beans at a much higher population that I would in a single 30"row. We planted about half of our sweet corn last season twin row and our results were mixed. It is much harder to top it and it is slower to harvest, but it did harvest just fine with my byron head. In grain though it really harvests the same as a single row. What I found with the sweet corn is that our early plantings and our really late plantings had the biggest yield bump. One issue I ran into with the monosem is that the sync timing system is not made for low populations that we plant sweet corn at. I have 12 cell plates and the timing system is based on a 18 cell. So I have to tinker with it at the field to get a stagger, It is not always perfect, but we plant 16 to 18 inch apart in each row so I can always get a decent stagger. That is a pain though when I switch back to field corn I have to re-zero the seed meter timing. For me The benefit to the twin row is both a cultural benefit as far as water savings goes and weed control as well as hopefully some yield increase. My hope with the strip till is to save even more moisture and help cut our irrigation more if feasible. I guess time will tell.

Scott
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bharzman
Posted 5/22/2010 12:25 (#1209788 - in reply to #1209699)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


North Central Kansas
Can a guy still harvest his corn with a 30 inch corn head, or do you need a special header for this?
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Oregon Farmer
Posted 5/22/2010 17:13 (#1209997 - in reply to #1209788)
Subject: Re: Twin Row Corn Pics


Independence OR
A normal head works just fine. We used a old international 863 on our grain last season and I had no issues at all.
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