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| Was wondering if anyone new anything about the fox 6660 choppers that were built. I'm looking at two of them and thinking about buying them
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north-central Indiana west of Fulton | Ask on stock talk...some guys on there have Fox and may help you. |
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Greenleaf, WI | I have some original sales brochures and can give you specs. But I have no idea about reliability. 6V-71 T Detroit Diesel V6 2 cycle engine 277 HP at 2100 RPM. 92 gallon fuel tank, 16 MPH top speed. Let me know what other information you would like. |
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| Thanks for the info and I've heard this model is hard to find since it's one of the last ones made and not sure if that's tr or not |
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Greenleaf, WI | Yes that is the last models they made. There was a 6460, 6660, and 6860. Manufactured in the early 1980's. |
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Faunsdale, AL | Looks like a little different layout than the 6650's we had.
Fox had the reputation for building stuff to be stout.
If you want to find out anything about Fox choppers, contact Norris Works Works sales and service, Bennington, IN. |
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| I actually talked to him last week and I think he thought I was talking about a 6650 not this model
I got some more pics of the one that's f parts
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Faunsdale, AL | Looks like the cab and ladder up to it may be the biggest difference/improvement.
I always heard that there were some of the last FOX choppers that had a wider throat than all the other ones they made prior to that. Of all the previous ones, the main difference was being a 6 knife cutter head or an 8 knife. There were some light duty 6 knife heads made for smaller pull types, but standard 6 knife version is pretty stout and the 8 knife cutterhead is built hell for stout. I think a lot of the aftermarket suppliers have the knives and shear bars for them.
The overall design of crop flow is a lot better than a Deere chopper of the same era, in my opinion, but not nearly so streamlined as a CLAAS for example. I put processor rolls in a couple of the 6650's we had. Didn't help crop flow at all, but we were caught between chopping corn silage that was highly digestible, but too wet for our upright silos and silage that was just right for the silos, but the grain was too hard for good digestion. The final solution was a used Claas 880. |
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| I agree with you on the design of the crop flow cause I've looked close at them and it seems really simple to work on but I'm kinda worried about the transmission if that ever goes bad if there's not many parts available |
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Faunsdale, AL | It will be a hydrostatic. Ours were all Sundstrand components. Had to put an input shaft in one pump on a chopper that had been a custom machine in California. Never had any trouble out of the rest.
The ones we had had a 2 speed h/low box between the hydrostatic motor and a bevel gear that turned the driveline from across the machine to front and back to feed into the differential of the front axle. I think we had one bevel gearset torn up once, never had any trouble with the high/low box or differential. Had a lot of trouble with the final drives on the earlier models until we installed a truss rod on the axle to stop it flexing. Never touched another final on a machine with a truss installed.
We had a total of 4 of the 6650's over the years and 3 at the end. Still have the old former custom machine in the shed. The first of that model had a round axle tube where the later ones had a square channel welded top and bottom on the round tube to box it in. I don't think we trussed the last one we bought and it never broke a final, so those axles are probably strong enough. The axle tube would give a little and cause a misalignment that would tear up the bearings that support the axle shaft and pinion gear in the final drive. Then it would chip the pinion gear sometimes or even break an axle shaft.
Make sure the emergency shutdown cable is not frozen up before you start one up. You can trip and reset the air door easily to test it before starting. Only ever had one take off and they had to take fuel lines loose to kill it. I was listening to some other guys starting it up out back and it didn't sound bad to me, but they were sure it was overspeeding. I went out later and moved the governor Iinkage back to idle by hand and started it right up without any more trouble. |
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| I've heard of that happening to those engines before and I di know they had a emergency shut off so that's one thing I wi be looking into right away thanks for tip |
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North Carolina | Did you buy the foxes yet the main concern for me would be the heads 3 row is adjustable 4 row are fixed either narrow or wide which one do they have not many of them made only five made in 4 row wide I'm assuming more was produced in the narrow configuration but still hard to find have only saw one for sale in the U.S. know where one of the 4 row wide heads is at and know a man that knows where the other four are I remember him saying one of them is in California where are these machines located Look at the identification tags if they say hiniker on them they were still on the factory grounds when hiniker bought them out I can tell you full details about that and probably about some parts different than Norris works you can call if you like 828-231-5729 we have 3 selfpropelled and two pull types one of the pull types is a 4510 it has a hiniker tag on it It was also the last and largest pull type made it is basiy the same as those selfpropelleds your looking at There was also a belted head with a cross auger produced they were designed by someone in Europe but fox built them and and they are also 4 rows and a fixed narrow or wide would like to talk to you about them I have a 3 row narrow I would like to sell 753 model that will work on that machine also |
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| The guy that has these choppers has a three row narrow head that goes with and he did tell me he had a chance to buy a four row head at one time but didn't |
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North Carolina | Is the head a belted type or a chain. Belted will be 751 or 753 Chain will be a 7334 Chain is adjustable belted heads are fixed width Something to consider when buying, if the head is in good shape it is worth as much or more than the machine |
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| It's a three row adjustable with chains but it has been sitting outside but looks to be in good shape yet |
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North Carolina | Oh yeah how about a windrow pickup I also have 8084 pickup head it will go on those things to its almost new Thinking about selling them if your intrested |
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| How much are you asking for both heads and where are you located I'm from wisconsin |
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North Carolina | That's a 7334 check your width of that machine at the drive tires might be a tight fit against the next row of corn if you are on narrow rows and also the drive gears in the bottom of the head run in oil make dam sure all that is in good shape About 15 miniute whith no oil because of a rusty cover or leak and that head is toast and ready for the scrap yard. STRESS there are not many of these around and parts are virtually non existent hiniker will tell u to call Norris works but he does not like the chain heads I have both the chain is way the better head just make sure you have no grass in you corn CLEAN corn = no problems I can tell u alot on these thing things for we have rebuilt two selfpropelleds one of them is almost identical to the one you are looking at |
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North Carolina | I'm in North Carolina one of my machines came from mantiwoc I think I spelled that right Just call me 828-231-5729 24/7 don't think we are suppose to buy and sell in this forum |
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| I've hear these choppers are pretty hard to come by is that true |
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North Carolina | Yeah but not because they are like a popular chopper fox just didn't build that many of them they are pain in the but if you don't know how to do the set up on the knives they will not feed right and clog constantly all of my choppers were sold to me because the previous owners didn't bother to set them up right but I cost a bit to do it right to be assured the one you. Are looking at will need exstensive work and money spent on it Those choppers were built the last years fox was in business more were sent to Europe than were sold in US The 6660 was right at 100 grand 6860 was well over that have never seen a 6860 or even a picture of one saw several in Europe in pics and vids saw a 6460 in Iowa for sale one time Read apost on yt or here can't remember of aguy who had a 6660 with broken final drive or axle and he was looking for parts if these issues arise them become machine shopp projects I have experience with this The 6460 6660 6860 are the old 6650 with dif cab and three engine choices a dif frame (ref ccjersets post about frame prob) If your not willing to spend the money to fix them and fix them right they will never be more than they are right now No jerry rigging on these they will destroy themselves if you do We have done every thing from break feed roll drives to slinging knives thru blower housing from wrong setup If you put new knives in put new bolts and shear bar learned from experience New drive chains putem all one new one stresses the others to massive failure etc to much to text I have parts manuals for that thing some where and the 6650 I need to locate them another thing if they don't have the electric on board sharpeners on them you will never get them set upright unless you remove the knives every time you sharpen them |
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| Do you think it would be worth it if I can get the pair of them and the heads for $12000 |
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North Carolina | Just the one head or is there another one |
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| Two hay heads and one corn head |
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North Carolina | Think it would be better to call me to discuss pricing I can reference some prices on heads that have sold and machines that I have bought and tell you who has got what but don't want to reference them on here without their permission 828-231-5729 |
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North Carolina | Sounds like this guy has Been chopping more hay than corn which are you gonna do and how much |
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North Carolina | Personally 12000 would be to much for me I know what it will take to put one of those back to going I would put another 12000 with it and get a yellow or green I own fox choppers for two reasons I only chopp 40 acres a year and have a large window to do it in because i also do the planting and spread it out and I am poor dont have alot invested in them if I were to start doing 100 or more I would have to up grade to some newer stuff |
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North Carolina | Personally 12000 would be to much for me I know what it will take to put one of those back to going I would put another 12000 with it and get a yellow or green I own fox choppers for two reasons I only chopp 40 acres a year and have a large window to do it in because i also do the planting and spread it out and I am poor dont have alot invested in them if I were to start doing 100 or more I would have to up grade to some newer stuff |
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North Carolina | This is what 12000 looks like in the feild totally rebuilt
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Southern Wisconsin | Just came across this post huge fox fan down here in souther Wisconsin really interested if you bought those foxes would maybe like to see them, have a super d ourselves |
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