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Wicket
Posted 2/16/2013 08:55 (#2902767)
Subject: Bi-Fold doors?


Pricing out doors for a new shed and started looking at the bifolds. I found one company in WI and one in MN. One uses straps and one uses cables. Seems cheaper than the large overheads and I dont lose ceiling height. For those of you that have them what do you think.Thanks
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young buck1
Posted 2/16/2013 09:00 (#2902778 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


Sibley county Minesota
I have the one that uses straps been a good door so far only thing I do not like is I have to hold the button for opening and shutting. My neighbor bought his from the one in Wisconson it is a lighter door than the one I have but so far he has no problems with his either and his opens and closes with out holding button. My neighbor bought his through Menards when they had a sale and they gave him the dicounted price on that also,
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dixonman
Posted 2/16/2013 09:07 (#2902794 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors?


I have a schweiss with straps and it is an excellent door would buy another in a heart beat
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hoofer
Posted 2/16/2013 09:07 (#2902795 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors?


SC Kansas
Hydraulic = fewer moving parts,love mine.
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TrentonKY
Posted 2/16/2013 09:16 (#2902820 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors?


Trenton, KY
I was at the Machinery Show yesterday and I looked at the following brand doors, some companies had both hydraulic one piece doors as well as bi-folds.

Schweiss www.schweissdoors.com
Hi-Fold Door Corporation www.hi-fold.com
Higher Power Hydraulic Doors www.hpdoors.com
Powerlift Hydraulic Doors www.powerliftdoors.com

Reasonably speaking every company when comparing the same size door was close on their price.
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NH8970
Posted 2/16/2013 09:27 (#2902845 - in reply to #2902778)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?



Gilby,ND
if i remember right you can bypass that system
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jps51248
Posted 2/16/2013 09:39 (#2902869 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors?



nw Iowa
I have 4 of the bi-fold doors from Wisc. No head room lost is a great feature!! Have not checked with them lately, but the auto lock system is great also. Push the button and walk away. With the snow we get in front of the door in some storms, I doubt the hyd. door would push that much!!! If you want look at a large hydr. door, check out the door at the Sheldon Iowa airport!!! 75' x 20'. This door came from Minn. jps
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jtpfarm
Posted 2/16/2013 10:00 (#2902908 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


mn
Definately go with sraps. Faster and less maintinace. Also be sure to get the auto-latch system.
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Fred
Posted 2/16/2013 10:03 (#2902914 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


south east SD
I have the one out of Wisconsin, Hi-Fold Door Corp. 20 x 40 bi-fold. Will say it is a cable system, and there is moving parts! Cold storage so I don't need to open it every day. Builder was the dealer and he says he has put in a bunch at airports with no trouble. I asked about service after the sale and he said he a few little things on a new door and the company was very good to work with. Mine's only 90 days old so not much to report. The door is facing west and with a south wind it can hold it from latching in the middle. Not a big thing, I just don't open on a windy day or pull it in the middle just as it is closing. Mine has 2 remote's and a wall button. Never have to hold them to open or close. Open or close, stop anywhere you want. The price was WAY cheaper than any other door I looked at so that is why I bought it. When they say a 20 foot door, it is 20 foot opening! Hope it is working like it is now, 20 years from now! Wanted a big door to drive combine in with head, and anything else I want to park. Roll up door that size I don't think they make and sliders are not the answer. Didn't want a one piece door because I drive up hill to get out and might hit the door with something tall I might buy some day? Water runs away to the south so that is not a problem. Built the shed east to west south being down hill with a driveway being on both ends of the shed, 176 feet long. 72 foot was just added. Asked about door speed and he said they now use 220 power on electric over hydraulic. Mine opens and closes pretty fast. I know I can push the door opener and walk to a tractor, start it and drive out with no trouble.

Edited by Fred 2/16/2013 12:25
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farmcorn
Posted 2/16/2013 10:32 (#2902963 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


SC Iowa
I have a 15x25 High-Fold with cables. Three years old with no problems so far. Only complaint is how slow it opens and closes, although you can walk away for a minute. We installed ours, not to difficult. Directions were written well.

Edited by farmcorn 2/16/2013 10:35
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OHIO78
Posted 2/16/2013 10:35 (#2902976 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?



Kenton, Ohio
my f-i-l has two of them one is 24 ft wide the other is 60 ft wide....one that is 60ft wide (schweiss door) opens and closes better than the other one that is with cables...not sure the make on it though. schweiss door has the straps and its nice and smooth. to override having to hold the button you have to call schweiss and give them your sn# for the door so they can reference the job and they will send you the wiring schematic to bypass that...its what I did for my f-i-l's 60 footer
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Rockman
Posted 2/16/2013 10:48 (#2903000 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors? (pic)


I prefer straps instead of cables. I built these about 10 years ago. Bought the openers from Midland Bifold out of Fargo, ND. If I was going to buy a door, I would call them.

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SEK Farmer
Posted 2/16/2013 10:57 (#2903020 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors?


Southeastern Kansas
We are wireing up a 30 ft Schwiess right now. Got to the hold the switch in all the time to go up or down. Couldn't figure our how to remedy the issue so called Schwiess. They informed us because of lawsuits you now have to install a light sensor in the system to stop from holding the switch in all the time. Would not even discuss how to wire around it. Ours has the nylon belts, much faster than the cable ones.
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johnnycash
Posted 2/16/2013 11:19 (#2903077 - in reply to #2903000)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors? (pic)


Gods Country (That we took from the Indians) WC IA
Rockman - 2/16/2013 09:48

I prefer straps instead of cables. I built these about 10 years ago. Bought the openers from Midland Bifold out of Fargo, ND. If I was going to buy a door, I would call them.


Nice Job Rockman!
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Alberta Pioneer
Posted 2/16/2013 11:32 (#2903100 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


Warburg, AB
Rockman, any chance you have some specs/measurements? Email is in profile if you prefer that way.

Bruce

Edited by Bruce Avison 2/16/2013 11:33
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jtpfarm
Posted 2/16/2013 11:36 (#2903105 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


mn
If you want to bypass it there is a switch made that snaps in and stays. When you push one button it pops the other one out. simole way to bypass having to hold the button and the limit switch on the door will still stop it.
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E718
Posted 2/16/2013 11:52 (#2903124 - in reply to #2902869)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


Sac & Story county IA
The raise - lower - stop deal is a matter of having a set of contacts on the relay to hold til the stop button is pushed. If it is a legal deal, the manufacturer probably uses a contactor that doesn't have another set not being used. Otherwise, it is the same idea as a start stop buttons on a motor with one extra switch.
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KnowAFarmer
Posted 2/16/2013 12:41 (#2903215 - in reply to #2903105)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?



SE Nebraska
We put a Schweiss in a friend's shop and wired around the hold function. Don't remember how, but it didn't take any extra parts. I think we just had to switch some wires. I'll try and remember to look at it next time I go out there.
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young buck1
Posted 2/16/2013 13:15 (#2903282 - in reply to #2903215)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


Sibley county Minesota
KnowAFarmer - 2/16/2013 11:41

We put a Schweiss in a friend's shop and wired around the hold function. Don't remember how, but it didn't take any extra parts. I think we just had to switch some wires. I'll try and remember to look at it next time I go out there.






I would like to know how.
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PE.
Posted 2/16/2013 13:16 (#2903287 - in reply to #2902778)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


WC MN
Get a remote for it, still have to hold the button down. Be careful what you wish for, local guy crushed by an overhead door would still be around if he'd had to hold button down.
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TrentonKY
Posted 2/16/2013 14:30 (#2903433 - in reply to #2903000)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors? (pic)


Trenton, KY
Rockman, you did a really nice job on that door! Was that kit from Midland and you just welded it together or did you build the whole thing and then get the controls from them? My email is good, and I would like to know more if you dont mind. Thanks
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OHIO78
Posted 2/16/2013 14:48 (#2903464 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?



Kenton, Ohio
their prewired correctly for one push button operation...all you have to do is sign a liability form from schweiss and they will tell you guys which wires to switch....its a matter of switching one wire to another terminal is all
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CaseFarmer
Posted 2/16/2013 14:53 (#2903476 - in reply to #2903124)
Subject: Schweiss door can raise a F150.


Flora IL
I think it could move some snow
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arcticcatfarmer
Posted 2/16/2013 15:16 (#2903527 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors?


Tip of the Thumb of Michigan

Looked at the Higher power doors at the NFMS and if you can stand to lose 8" it would be my choice.  The close time on 30 footers was supposed to be about 30 seconds.                         http://www.hpdoors.com/

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TiminIN
Posted 2/16/2013 15:27 (#2903548 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: RE: Bi-Fold doors?


North Central Indiana

Just put in a 16X40 Higher power hydraulic door. Need an extra 6.5" on your rough opening and another 14" inside above the rough openining for the door to swing back and clear the ceiling/rafters. Price was better than OH, BF and hyd swing doors. I'll get some pics tomorrow.

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Wicket
Posted 2/16/2013 16:30 (#2903650 - in reply to #2902767)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


Thanks for all the replys, has to be a bifold. Too much snow for hydraulic door. MN
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young buck1
Posted 2/16/2013 18:04 (#2903831 - in reply to #2903650)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?


Sibley county Minesota
I heard these doors are suppose to be good also www.crowndoors.com/
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Rockman
Posted 2/16/2013 18:22 (#2903860 - in reply to #2903433)
Subject: KID not kit more (pics)



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KnowAFarmer
Posted 2/16/2013 20:53 (#2904220 - in reply to #2903282)
Subject: Re: Bi-Fold doors?



SE Nebraska
I looked in the box tonight, but we didn't have the schematic so I couldn't tell which wires we switched. If you can post the schematic I can probably figure it out (unless they have changed the controls). I told my friend about this post, maybe he can figure out his schematic and post an answer.
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Wicket
Posted 2/18/2013 09:49 (#2907532 - in reply to #2903860)
Subject: RE: KID not kit more (pics)


Rockman could you show a picture of the header on your barn, thanks.
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