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Walnut Grove, MN. | Has anyone put a schweiss bifold door or any bifold door on their shop? Are they good or bad? Im thinking of putting one on our new shop this summer. I also know they make hydraulic doors to. If it was your shop which would you choose? |
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east central, Iowa | I have a bi- fold from them. I put it in myself about 5 years ago. I love it. They make a nice door. I sprayed it with closed cell insulation on the inside after I got the steel on the outside of the door. I went this route because I like to leave it open in the summer time when I'm working and it doesn't interfere with the lighting in my shop. Seems like I do alot of work after hours. lol |
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Walnut Grove, MN. | Does your door use the cables or the straps? |
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Walnut Grove, MN. | Does your door have the cables or the straps and is it big enough for the size of equipment you have? |
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east central, Iowa | I have the straps. I think they are the only way to go. It goes up and down very smooth and there is no maintenance to them so far. |
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Walnut Grove, MN. | Do your door use the straps or the cables and is it big enough for the size of equipment you have? |
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Walnut Grove, MN. | Does your door use the cables or the straps and is it big enough for the size of your equipment? |
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east central, Iowa | Yes it is big enough so far but who knows in the future. seems like you never do things big enough. what is also nice about them is you can have a wide opening. My is 30ft wide |
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Walnut Grove, MN. | Sorry for the same replies in new to this and it seems slow to posting my comments
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east central, Iowa | No problem. I'm new to this too. |
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S MN | I had one with cables, tended to get out of sync on occasion. Also can be a major pain if snow drifts alot in front of it- have to scoop by hand to get the door open to get the tractor/snowblower out. Several times of 6' of snow up against... now I prefer rollups although can lose some headroom |
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S.C. Minn | We have a bi fold door on our shop, it is ok, it has it's issues and it doesn't seal very well after years of use. We recently put a powerlift door on our machine shed. I would highly recommend this door. It seals good and simple and inexpensive compared to a bi fold.
www.powerliftdoors.com |
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Iowa | I wanted one, but Morton salesman talked me out of it (he wasn't selling me a door anyway so I trusted his advice) He said the move slow enough to lose an awful lot of heat, they can be hard to seal up tight and they require more maintenance than an overhead door. Then about a year later a friend did a shop with one and hates it for the same reasons listed above, |
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W C Illinios | I have a Morton building with 3 Hydro-swing doors 1 door 50'x18.5' and 20'x16' and a 15'x15'. I looked at bifold doors they where higher priced and some neighbors had problems with them. No problems with the hydro swing doors. |
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North West IA/western AZ | I have a hydaulic door (24x16) on one end and an overhead (16x14) on the other. The closeing speed is only a few seconds slower on the hydro and the OH is very poor at sealing the wind out.
If you have 6' of snow piled against an OH door, I doubt it will open either. |
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Extreme SW Minnesota Iowa border | Have had a Schwiess bifold since 1987. Cables, and all that. I would put one in with the straps if that one ever wore out. You can really make them seal tight, if you have a square building. |
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SW Iowa | Dad has a 14' tall by 22' wide bifold with straps that has been hanging on his Morton building for about 15 years now. It has been trouble free, and a lot less work to open then the sliders that was replaced. It has had ice on it, snow against it, and as long as the power is on, it opens. It needs a new brake as if you try and stop it on the way down it won't, but it holds up fine. This summer I put a new 18' tall by 35' wide one up with auto latches and straps. It is not any slower then the big hydro swing type doors I've been around, and when it was all said and done for the hydraulic lines and pumps, about the same price. I don't have to worry about vehicles setting close for the bottom of the door to hit, and I'm sure with 6' snow drift no door is going to open. I know lots will say Hydroswing all the way, but I have no complaints about the Schwiess bifold.
I do have on the sides of the shop an overhead type door, and it is faster and we use it for the smaller stuff, but you won't find a door as large as my bifold thats any faster open or closing, when it comes to heat loss. That is why the shop I built has three options for bringing stuff in. A large bifold, a 18' tall, 24' wide overhead that the tracks follow the wall up to the roof, and a 12x12 overhead for small tractors, forklifts, and pickups.
Michael |
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| Schweiss is a super door. The pull-straps make the door speed up after it lifts a few feet. Bi-Fold won't spank your pickup like a hydraulic door. Spend the money on the full clearance unit so none of your cutout height is wasted. Good fit, good looks, no regrets. Well-insulated, virtually silent, locks tight so no wind leakage. Windows are a nice adder too. |
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North Central MO | I have a 40' Schwiess. Has straps and auto locks. I would disagree on not being able to seal it up tight. If you order one make sure and ask to have the control box NOT mounted on the door but rather wired so it will be on the wall next to the door ..... learned that the hard way .....
I like the door, it will let a lot of heat out when you open it. Have not seen anything that I would prefer over the bifold for a big door.
Edited by 99guy 1/6/2011 22:07
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Flandreau, SD | Where are the limit switches at if the control/contact box is wall mounted? |
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North Central MO | Limit switches are still in the door, rest of the controls get moved to a wall box, or so I was told .......
I had a limit switch fail with the door in the open position, had a heck of a time getting door back down, naturally this was at night, on a weekend, with a storm on the way. Went to electrical wholesaler next Monday .... bought an enclosure .... moved everything but the switches to the new enclosure mounted on wall. Now I can easily override the switches or anything else that could fail in the original box that might stop the door.
When I called Schweiss to order a limit switch I also suggested they move the box, seemed like a no brainer to me after the fact. Schweiss told me they do if you ask! I was never made aware of that when I ordered the door. At the time this door had only been up a short while. One other thing, my door is on a end wall and hinge point is above header so if the door is in the max open position you really cant get to the original box as it is above the header ......
Edited by 99guy 1/7/2011 09:13
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Flandreau, SD | We have 7 Schweiss doors and have only had one stuck open in about 12 years that I can remember.
That is until recently, we added 2 doors on our manure barns and the moisture is getting inside the boxes and causing the doors to not work, many times up on a loader to push contacts to get the door back down!! :(
Moving the contacts and such to the wall in a water proof box is a good idea. Thanks. Never needed to think about it until recently. I am also going to change over one of our cable auto lactches to the strap latch. That looks slick!! |
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| Just a little up date Schweiss jumped into the hydraulic door market 9 years ago the Schweiss Hydraulic doors is called the ......HYDRO POWER DOOR by Schweiss Doors .. Yes they are a Great Door and are catching on Fast... low headroom and simple..
But in the same breath we have the Bifold doors with the Lift Straps , instead of cable..the only way to order a bifold door....The bifold doors keep getting better, we have just came out with the Latch Strap closure, no more cables on the bifold..Period
Another great design change , Schweiss now puts the electrical control box on the Wall...It is the best and the only way we do our electrical as of late 2010.. Today we are selling many Hydro Power Doors , the farmers are loving them because of the Clearance
they provide... We let the Customer decide which door is best for them .. Go to our site Schweissdoors.com has many new things to offer ! Check out the "New" Latch Strap ... Mike Schweiss |
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| I would highly recommend the hydraulic door over the bi-fold. The biggest reason is simplicity. The maintenance factor over the long run is probably the biggest reason. Rick's Welding (Power Lift Doors) has about the best pricing and his turn around time is hard to beat. Additionally, Rick seems to have an excellent reputation when it comes to doing business with him. I recently saw one of the Schweiss hydraulic doors and really had to wonder about all the limit switches, wiring zip-tied to the back side of the door and a pump system that takes up a good bit of floor space. Just wasn't real tidy looking. The door structure itself looks good but all the extra stuff that really isn't neccessary seems to be carried over from the bi-fold door era. Just my 2 bits... |
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SW Iowa | I don't know what maintenance you are talking about on a bifold. I look at a hydraulic door and think about all the hoses and lines, and a pump and a motor, and cylinders. I've worked on farm more hydraulic problems in my life then electrical and drive chain problems. It all comes down to what you want. I like my bifold from Schwiess. I have a new one like Mike is talking about. The one on Dad's shed that is almost 20 years old, has only been worked on about 1 day in 20 years. I really can't find anything to complain about there. |
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| I certainly didn't mean to fire a shot at bifold door owner's, sir. After 20 plus years of installing, servicing and repairing just about every make and model of large door product, it's just my opinion, based on my experience. I'm sure there are many bifold door owners, such as yourself, that are extremely happy with the bifold door. That being said, I've seen some of the inherent problems that exist in the bifold. The hydraulic door eliminates many of those problems, IMO. The only problem I've encountered with the hydraulic door product was with some of the older doors manufactured by Hydroswing. The upper pivot point mount for the cylinders became inadequate as the doors grew in size. They redesigned the pivot point and resolved that problem. I've installed over a thousand hydraulic doors and I'll be the first to admit, I am partial to the product. I recently installed a 110' x 28' door and it is truly amazing to watch an entire wall open up. It is my hope that your bifold serves you well for many years to come. |
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| Thanks Never took it at as a shot , I can appreciate you spoke the truth Yes, hydraulic doors are here to stay, it offers the customers another door options, Schweiss started with the Bi-Fold doors , Schweiss invented the lift straps and now the latch straps, yes they keep getting better every day and most folks understand bifold doors, good or bad that's the beauty of now manufacturing the HYDR-POWER DOOR, another door choice for the customer, it has been Schweiss's best seller is now the Hydraulic door ! We let the customer tell us which one is the best, and we do our best to manufacture the Best Hydraulic Door. We built our business on each and everyone's input into our product, and we respect the customers and keep trying to Do each door Better & Better, Looking for a HYDRO POWER or a Strap BiFold it's your choice Schweiss offers 2 style's of Door !
Thanks Mike Schweiss |
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