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fairtomidland
Posted 12/13/2018 11:32 (#7168662)
Subject: Tariff tax payment


Whats the odds of us getting a second half payment on the China tariff tax payment? I received the first half payment about 7 days after I reported my bushels to the FAS office. I was told then that the second payment would come in December, but now with China buying soybeans again things might change. Your thoughts
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agr890
Posted 12/13/2018 11:33 (#7168667 - in reply to #7168662)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Western Illinois
We wont know anything for a while and anyone saying they know is just guessing. I'm guessing we get a 2nd payment but it will be very small.
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Two Hawk
Posted 12/13/2018 11:47 (#7168689 - in reply to #7168662)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Southern Nevada desert
I read yesterday that the Trump administration had suspended the second tranche of payments since the Chinese government had indicated it would begin limited purchases to fill its strategic reserve, the feeling was that the payments may no longer be needed. Wait and see suspension, not necessarily permanent.

One of the stories: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-farmaid/white-house-del...
There are a few more out there detailing the likely size of the sales.

Edited by Two Hawk 12/13/2018 11:51
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SDFarmboy
Posted 12/13/2018 12:05 (#7168728 - in reply to #7168689)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


The last I heard today, on farm radio news, is that the Admin. will make a decision by the end of the month, regarding the 2nd payment.


So stay tuned.  For tax planning, nothing more by year end.


I checked with my FSA office this week, and they are behind on requests right now for December, files piled high.

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German Shepherd
Posted 12/13/2018 15:13 (#7169057 - in reply to #7168662)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Remember who's president.   We aren't getting one.   All we get a chance to continue to sell beans under the cost of production.

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SteigerSt320
Posted 12/13/2018 16:09 (#7169135 - in reply to #7169057)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Northeast Louisiana
Apparently someone is not looking at the big picture??

Some farmers have contracted the crops at a ok price..

Some farmers sold crops at rock bottom....

Some sold at the highs....

Some still holding in grain tanks.....

Who is the winner or looser in this?

Yes, I took a hit in the soybeans prices. But had my corn contracted at a decent price.

This is not a one size fits all.

Edited by SteigerSt320 12/13/2018 16:09
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FromtheFlats
Posted 12/13/2018 16:38 (#7169178 - in reply to #7169057)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


EC IL
Yeah never in history have we had it so rough. First time in my career prices have been below COP*****
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garvo
Posted 12/13/2018 17:04 (#7169232 - in reply to #7168662)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


western iowa,by Denison
I wish Trump would come along with a program that you could send the bean payment back and give us vouchers against tax's worth 50%-100% more-you send it in -say $5,000 and they give you a credit of $10,000 on your federal tax return good until its used up-then take all the bean money returned and help build the wall-
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Red Fox
Posted 12/13/2018 17:04 (#7169233 - in reply to #7169178)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


FromTheFlats You must be a young pup If you plan on farming plan on a few bad years.
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IowaMark
Posted 12/13/2018 18:09 (#7169372 - in reply to #7169178)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
FromtheFlats - 12/13/2018 16:38

Yeah never in history have we had it so rough. First time in my career prices have been below COP*****


You are joking aren’t you? If you’re not this is a cake walk compared to the 80’s Farm crisis.
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rambo
Posted 12/13/2018 18:20 (#7169397 - in reply to #7169232)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment



Remsen, Iowa

garvo - 12/13/2018 17:04 I wish Trump would come along with a program that you could send the bean payment back and give us vouchers against tax's worth 50%-100% more-you send it in -say $5,000 and they give you a credit of $10,000 on your federal tax return good until its used up-then take all the bean money returned and help build the wall-

 

I like your thinking!

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Two Hawk
Posted 12/13/2018 19:04 (#7169517 - in reply to #7169372)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Southern Nevada desert
IowaMark - 12/13/2018 04:09

FromtheFlats - 12/13/2018 16:38

Yeah never in history have we had it so rough. First time in my career prices have been below COP*****


You are joking aren’t you? If you’re not this is a cake walk compared to the 80’s Farm crisis.

Find a dictionary, look up "sarcasm"
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IAGary
Posted 12/13/2018 20:12 (#7169698 - in reply to #7169232)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Southeast Iowa
like
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FromtheFlats
Posted 12/13/2018 20:15 (#7169707 - in reply to #7169233)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


EC IL
Come on rookie
***** denote sarcasm :)
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Now_What
Posted 12/13/2018 20:24 (#7169735 - in reply to #7169135)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


And then there are the other 127 crops that got hit with a tariff, took a much larger hit and didn’t even get a first payment.
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oldbones
Posted 12/13/2018 20:36 (#7169776 - in reply to #7169057)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment



Floyd County, Iowa
Sheep Herder - 12/13/2018 15:13

Remember who's president.   We aren't getting one.   All we get a chance to continue to sell beans under the cost of production.



You just don't give up, do you?
Get over it.
The price if commodities right now has more to do with over production than tariffs.
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coyotehunter
Posted 12/13/2018 20:37 (#7169780 - in reply to #7169057)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Sheep Herder - 12/13/2018 15:13

Remember who's president.   We aren't getting one.   All we get a chance to continue to sell beans under the cost of production.



https://www.farmersco-operative.com/markets/cash.php?location_filter...

just for your nightly pep up we are sitting at about 55 cents less for current cash with half the trump pump, than if you would have sold N/C beans for 1060 at a dollar under basis off the combine.

its gonna be a great 2019!
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IowaMark
Posted 12/13/2018 21:05 (#7169865 - in reply to #7169707)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
FromtheFlats - 12/13/2018 20:15

Come on rookie
***** denote sarcasm :)


I must be a slow learner I didn’t know ****** meant sarcasm, I wouldn’t have responded below had I known that, sorry :-).
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senorthdakota
Posted 12/13/2018 23:13 (#7170131 - in reply to #7169232)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


I like this should tweet it to trumpiam
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gbenkfarm
Posted 12/14/2018 06:14 (#7170331 - in reply to #7168689)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment



SeMN
Another link. https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/second-round-of-trump-tari...
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FromtheFlats
Posted 12/14/2018 07:40 (#7170504 - in reply to #7169865)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


EC IL
Haha no worries at all !
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Gophergetter
Posted 12/14/2018 08:50 (#7170683 - in reply to #7169057)
Subject: RE: Tariff tax payment


Cass Co. ND
You poor thing. Maybe do a better job marketing or raising crops. Cut some expenses. Cut living expense. Or quit farming and get a job you are qualified for. I hear Soros is hiring people to troll and complain about President Trump.
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