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lacockcattleco
Posted 9/28/2017 22:57 (#6277068)
Subject: Atvs


N.E. MT
Getting tired of the newer hondas breaking down. Thinking about switching to Yamaha. Yamaha is a bad word on our place but we aren't making the Hondas pencil very well. Has anyone ran the kodiak 700's with success? We put 3k+ miles a year on 6 wheelers and 2 sxs. Want something that will go for more than two years without a bunch of trouble.
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patt0463
Posted 9/29/2017 00:09 (#6277122 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs


NE Oregon
Yes, independent suspension all around is awesome. Cargo racks could be beefier. We bolt a piece of plywood across the backtrack so dogs can ride safely. Put 12,000 miles on them before they really have problems besides the damage done with flipping them or getting hit by a cow periodically.

Worth a shot for you I think.
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Red Cows
Posted 9/29/2017 04:20 (#6277145 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs


SE SD
What problems are the Hondas having? I am needing another one but not necessarily a new one. I've got 15k on an 07 with no real issues but I need another one for moving cattle.






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Supa Dexta
Posted 9/29/2017 05:03 (#6277151 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs



NS Canada
I've honestly had better luck with my yamaha equipment than I have honda. I tried to like honda, but I haven't had great luck with it.
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Toepincher
Posted 9/29/2017 07:40 (#6277353 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs


North Dakota
I have 3 Polaris all broke down in the yard right now. Was looking at Honda's last night, I think you just changed that plan.
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lacockcattleco
Posted 9/29/2017 07:48 (#6277367 - in reply to #6277145)
Subject: RE: Atvs


N.E. MT
We can't keep them shifting. They run great but we've had a fair bit of trouble with the auto shift. DTC they call it, our old ones got along well but these newer ones aren't working out. If you could get a manual shift with EPS and IRS I would buy them but you can't order them that way. I've got 4 that are about to get traded pretty cheap if you're interested.
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lacockcattleco
Posted 9/29/2017 07:49 (#6277370 - in reply to #6277353)
Subject: RE: Atvs


N.E. MT
They run great but we can't keep them shifting.
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lacockcattleco
Posted 9/29/2017 07:54 (#6277381 - in reply to #6277122)
Subject: RE: Atvs


N.E. MT
Any trouble with the yamahas starting in the cold?
Do they burn a lot of oil?
I've also read that the air filters aren't real fantastic.

That's the trouble they get beat up a little bit and you're stuck trying to get a million miles on them because trading isn't a good option after that.
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cornncows
Posted 9/29/2017 08:49 (#6277491 - in reply to #6277381)
Subject: RE: Atvs


Ne Nebraska
I'll be the odd one and say can am outlander. If your putting on a lot of miles can't beat their ride for comfort and power. Put 5k miles a year in mine. Current one is a 2014 with 20k miles. Do cost a little more but been very good machine for me. I'm not easy on them either.
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patt0463
Posted 9/29/2017 09:04 (#6277510 - in reply to #6277381)
Subject: RE: Atvs


NE Oregon
We haven't had trouble with them starting in the cold, but I don't know that we get as cold as you do. But 20 degrees or so hasn't ever been an issue. Have not burnt oil really. They start overheating if you don't clear the radiator of grass seeds in the summer time if running through tall mature grass. But that's with anything.

Our biggest complaint is that the racks aren't very heavy duty. We use the winch to hold salt blocks and anything else we carry on the front rack and if you aren't careful you can bend the pipe. The back racks have a lot of air between the pipe and the fenders. Bad for dogs riding.

The new 700 we got 3 years ago got 1000 miles out on it in the first month (september) we had it. easily put 2-3000 miles a year on them. Have 3 so far ranging from '12 to '16 models. It's worth a shot, we run some rough country and go most places on those things.





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patt0463
Posted 9/29/2017 10:08 (#6277601 - in reply to #6277491)
Subject: RE: Atvs


NE Oregon
Went through 3 outlanders. They were very nice to ride and had a lot of power. But they seemed to have a weak frame. Spent a fair amount of time welding the frames of those.
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Russ In Idaho
Posted 9/29/2017 10:34 (#6277650 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs


I used to be all Arctic Cats because my dealer was my FNH dealer. But at 10-13,000 miles they are mostly all used up. So I thought Honda was the way to go because everyone said they were the best. Bought two 2015' 500 Rubicon Foreman 4x4 with the auto shift. Got right at 4,000 miles on both of them. One give problems the first two weeks with shifting, took to shop a lot. Shift motors, neutral switches. That bike is still not right. The other just quit shifting two months ago. Total melt down, had to find a dealer in Utah that could work on it, took 1 1/2 months finally found the problem. a pin broke in shifting something? They called this week, should be done today in fact. Don't know the bill on it. Now guys are telling me just buy the good solid mechanical shift Hondas. However we wanted the independent suspension because some days we ride 30-40 miles.

Next ones I guess will look at Can-am or Artic Cats again, I need a smooth ride and electric steering. Maybe Honda, they also have to be Auto's. Shame you can buy a used truck cheaper than a bike.
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feelnrite
Posted 9/29/2017 10:42 (#6277659 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs


northwest tennessee

I have a 2005 grizzly 660 with almost 11000 miles on it. I change oil every spring and fall and I will add about a half quart in that time. I changed the belt at 7500 and it looked like new. Yamaha had the first belt drive I believe and have the best one out. It is real smooth and no jerking when taking off like Polaris. This thing will use fuel though and that is my only negative. Now the air filter is prone to split and come apart, the foam sock, and in 2012 when it was so hot and dusty that fall I found that mine had done that. I think that is why I add some oil now and it didn't do that before. If I were to buy a new one I would probably put an aftermarket air filter on it to prevent that from happening. The glue in the Yamaha socks fails and the foam separates. I have a Honda rancher too and it has been bullet proof but if buying new I would look at the Yamaha again. I have put two batteries I think on this Yamaha and some CV boots but that is it.  

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Abomb
Posted 9/29/2017 11:19 (#6277712 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs


Our Yamaha dealer close by is a complete tool, were probably going to go further to a different one and keep getting yamahas. Oldest one is an 07 with 18,000 miles it has had a new belt and some knuckles but not bad. They are cheap and seem to work.
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Supa Dexta
Posted 9/29/2017 11:28 (#6277726 - in reply to #6277381)
Subject: RE: Atvs



NS Canada
I would rank honda and yamaha at the top, kawi and then suzuki for the 4 jap bikes. I run a kawi most days, and its been tough but also have a honda and a yamaha here at the moment. Suzuki has always had rougher frames, even in their bikes the welds weren't as nice. I think they're usually fine, but they just aren't as nice I guess.

Same as pickups though, good and bad in em all. My kawi 750 is automatic, i only shift into low when doing something I probably shouldn't be. Yamaha has a long history of snowmobiles also, so they know belt drives. They also have some of the cheapest (cost not quality) belts, when you do go to replace one

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Red Cows
Posted 9/29/2017 12:46 (#6277831 - in reply to #6277367)
Subject: RE: Atvs


SE SD
Ok thanks. I always run foot shift. They seem bullet proof. Thanks
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lacockcattleco
Posted 9/29/2017 13:39 (#6277898 - in reply to #6277650)
Subject: RE: Atvs


N.E. MT
We've changed a few of these pins. It's actually not to bad to do. But takes 4-5 hours and you half to split the engine in two. Not cool on a 9k dollar machine with 5k miles.
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lacockcattleco
Posted 9/29/2017 13:41 (#6277899 - in reply to #6277650)
Subject: RE: Atvs


N.E. MT
Dealer told me $850 to change pin. Parts and labor
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ColoradoCattleman
Posted 9/29/2017 14:43 (#6277937 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs


high High Colorado
We have owned Honda's for 20 plus years. Owned the two drive Recon.. Atleast 10 rancher and Formen Models

We put 2-4 thousand miles a year on them.. I think we have a 420 Rancher model with 32,000 miles... . old ones were good.... New ones not so good... We WILL NOT buy a auto Model... they were- are trouble... I bet we have bought 5 rear axles for those Honda Ranchers 2007-2013 models......... And we HAATE the Electric shift.... they give you trouble ...
Our two newer Forman 500cc foot shift is Ok...???? But we only have around 6000 miles on it and they have a better rear axle

We are too looking for something better ?? or???
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KRMN FARMN
Posted 9/29/2017 21:44 (#6278590 - in reply to #6277898)
Subject: RE: Atvs


Central nebr
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Q500
Posted 9/29/2017 22:29 (#6278694 - in reply to #6278590)
Subject: RE: Atvs


western colorado
I'm two wheels or on foot. When I say two wheels I mean the devil cr500 or husaberg570. Recreation vehicles are funny like that. They tend to sell some real crap. Once you weed out the crap it's amazing how good the good stuff is. I hate quads or sxs if I'm going to spend $20k I want a V--8



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Honest1994
Posted 9/29/2017 23:18 (#6278745 - in reply to #6277831)
Subject: RE: Atvs


Iowa
We have a Foreman, manual shift. Love that machine. Got a basket on the rack with a second part that hangs down behind and will hold three 5 gallon buckets plus some. Smaller 15 gallon Sprayers fit in it great.

We also have Kawasaki and a Yamaha. I think all of us prefer that Honda though. They all have their perks. KAwasaki seems fussier to start and run most of the time, and we've had some trouble with even good batteries lasting more than a year. Yamaha has probably been the easiest maintenance wise. I think it's due for a carb cleaning soon. A little fussy at times.

I think the Can am and the Polaris are more expensive to buy parts for and are a PIA to wok on. Kawasaki has the best warranty. When we get to SXS I think we will go with the Mule. Great machine. Easy to work on, few troubles with them.
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farmboy7624
Posted 10/3/2017 15:24 (#6285277 - in reply to #6277068)
Subject: RE: Atvs



Hartford WI
As long as you get a Honda without the electric shift they work great. Guy at the farm actually changed out the electric shift for a manual lever shift because he had problems with it.
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